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jessicap

Pane Siciliano from BBA

I just got Peter Reinhart's The Bread Baker's Apprentice and intend to make many of his breads over the next few weeks. It's slightly unfortunate timing, since it'll be Passover in a month and then summer in a few more weeks (I'll wait, impatiently, until fall to put up a sourdough starter), but that just means I need to make as much bread as possible each weekend.

My first loaf was the pane siciliano, made with semolina flour. The nine-year-old promptly dubbed it "the best bread I've even tasted;" he'll be getting sandwiches made from the batard loaf this week. I'm going to try adding some whole grain flour to the recipe in the future.


I made a triple batch of his pate fermente on Thursday. One pound went into this bread; the other two are frozen for future use. The bread dough is made with the pre-ferment, high-gluten bread flour, semolina flour -- the nubby kind you make pasta out of -- a little honey and olive oil, salt, yeast and water. I kneaded, fermented, and shaped on Friday. It was an extremely flexible dough, stretching out like a baguette with no springing back at all. It went into the fridge overnight to proof. (I was out of sesame seeds, and the nine year old doesn't like them anyhow.)

I baked it this morning in a very steamy oven. (I preheated the oven to 550 degrees, with a cast iron skillet on the floor. I poured in simmering water and closed the door quickly, twice. The oven was incredibly steamy, despite no additional misting of water). When the bread went in, I turned the heat down to 450. After 15 minutes, I separated the breads, because they were touching; ten minutes later, they were done (205+ on the thermometer.)

Unanimous verdict? Yum.

For next time:

  • Try replacing about a third of the flour in the pre-ferment with King Arthur white whole whole wheat.
  • The batard loaf is a little small for sadwiches;maybe make one large batard and one spiral next time? It also should probably be slashed; it split some on the side.
  • After 15 minutes in the oven, take the bread off the pan entirely and put them directly on the rack. The middle load stayed white and soft on the sides because they didn't get enough direct heat.
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qahtan

request for recipe

Posting my request again, hoping that some one has the recipe....I am looking for a choux paste cream puff recipe, but wait not the ordinary run of the mill cream puff, the one I am looking for puffs up very large and has great cracks in it when baked, it is filled with whipped cream and just a light sprinkle of icing sugar over the top. These are BIG cream puffs very light and puffy. help... qahtan

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ARR918

Pretzel Bread

So, I'm the office baker (I love to bake and live alone, so I bring the goodies into the office so I don't eat it all myself!), and recently someone tossed out the idea of pretzel bread.

I hadn't heard of it before and was wondering if I just need to use a good pretzel recipe and shape the dough into loaf instead of pretzels, or if there is an actual pretzel bread recipe floating around out there. Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks much!
Alexis

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AnnieT

bakery

This afternoon on the local NPR station I heard about a bakery in Seattle, Barrachini's. Remo Barranchini was interviewed - he is 78 and has been baking bread since he was 11! The bakery was started in the basement of the house where he lived and later the present bakery was built at a cost of $5,000. When asked what he likes so much about baking bread he said that he looks through the glass door of the oven to watch the bread "burst open". So nice to hear someone so happy with his work and still getting a kick out of watching bread bloom. He says he plans on baking until he is 95 and then he will go part time. Hope I can make a trip over to check it out in person, A.

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nstoddar

Wild sourdough starter questions (newbie)

I'm attempting to create my own wild sourdough starter. I took a look at Sourdoughlady's recipe for starter, but it was a bit intimidating, so I went for the Joy of Cooking recipe. I've been following it pretty closely, but I'm not sure when it's done.

First, a couple of facts:

  1. It doesn't smell weird -- just normal ... maybe a little "yeasty"
  2. There are bubbles in it ... not a tremendous amount, but a decent amount
  3. It does rise some ... maybe 20% after each feeding.
  4. Also, no hooch on the top.

During the feeding last night, I was playing around with it and noticed that it's very creamy ... nothing at all like a dough. It looks to have the same texture as very creamy melted cheese. I'm not sure what that means ... something I read implied if that happened it means the yeast had already consumed (?) all the gluten and there wasn't anything else to feed on (therefore less bubbles).

The Joy of Cooking recipe doesn't include throwing any out ... not sure if I'm okay as it is, or if I should continue feeding on 12 hour schedule until it doubles, or if I'm doomed.

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MapMaker

Elasticity

One frustration that I am continually fighting is dough that seems too elastic and hard to shape.  I have this problem with various recipes for baquettes, ciabatta, pan l'ancienne, etc.  I know that resting improves elasticity but it seems I must be doing something fundamentally wrong to be fighting this all the time.  What should I look at?  Is the dough under kneaded or over kneaded?  Under proofed or over proofed?  Is it the flour?  I watch so many videos where the bread looks so easy to work that I want to improve this particular aspect of my bread baking.  Any suggestions?

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foolishpoolish

Learned something about the 'french fold' through practice

I only learned about the 'french fold' technique about 2 months ago. I first saw it demonstrated in the Julia Childs Baguette video (link posted elsewhere in these forums).

Said video shows a rather energetic Danielle Forestier lifting dough above her shoulder/head and smashing it down on the work surface before folding it over and repeating (800 times allegedly!).

What I've discovered is that when I use a slightly gentler technique, the dough (gluten) actually develops quicker.  Rather than smashing it down, I lift the dough about 10 inches off the surface and 'lay it out' as if I were laying out a rug or carpet (initial motion forward quickly followed by pulling back).  I then fold as per usual and pick up at the side (essentially giving the dough a quarter turn) and repeat as required.  For me this develops that silky smooth, window-pane-passing dough more swiftly and with less of an armache afterwards!

Anyway, I don't know exactly how or why this works better for me.  I suspect I had previously been tearing gluten strands through over-zealous dough-slapping. 

Hope that helps

Cheers 

FP

 

 

 

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ehanner

Raisin Walnut SD delight

 Walnut-Raisin Bread
Walnut-Raisin Bread
Walnut-Raisin Crumb
Walnut-Raisin Crumb with butter

I started this loaf after seeing Susan from San Diego's bread at the SD meeting last weekend. The images were so delicious looking I knew my wife would love it. I don't make a lot of breads with things added inside but I could almost smell this one. I might of proofed this a little longer for a more open crumb but it chews great and tastes wonderful.

Who ever said "It is not you for which he wags his tail but for your bread" was right on. My wife's constant companion jumped up and voted with his teeth that he liked this batch, just as I was taking the picture. What a great dog!

Here is my adaptation of Susan from SD's recipe.

Walnut Raisin Bread

 500g flour (in this one I put about a half-cup of WW, the rest is Harvest King), 350g water, ~100g starter, ¼ tsp IDY10g salt 2 T sugar or honey,(and I added about 1-cup of very lightly toasted chopped walnuts and 1 cup of raisins.  (I soaked them for a few minutes in hot water) Mix, rest 5-10 minutes, machine knead/mix to windowpane, rest 10 minutes, a couple folds, fold (here's where I added the walnuts and raisins), pre-shape and  ferment  in an oiled bowl for 1.5 Hours.  Turn out onto parchment, cover and proof for 30 minutes. Slash, then lower into the hot Le Cloche at 470F, cover, lower heat to 450F, bake for 15 minutes, remove top and, bake until dark brown and internal temp is 200F. For me that was 30 minutes plus and additional  8 minutes at 400F.  I'm using Reinhart's suggestion to refresh my starter:  1:3:4 (for me 15g:38g:60g), and that has made a difference.
I only used 1/4 tsp IDY because my starter is strong. You may give that consideration but it was perfect for me.
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Mini Oven

Mixed Bread, Mischbrot in English

Mike Avery said it so well, so I thought we should make it a topic.  I hope he doesn't mind that I quote him:

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I like the term "mischbrot" and wish there was, or we could come up with, a term in English that was similar.  "Multi-grain" might be as close as we get, but I'd have trouble using the term "mult-grain" or even "mischbrot" to describe a bread that was part white flour and part whole wheat. 

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Now there are plenty if words for Mix (Misch) in English, we just need to use one often enough to "make it so."

Suggestions: 

Mingled Bread    Combined Bread  Jumbled Bread    Fused Bread   Fusion Bread    United Bread   Joined Bread    Amalgamated Bread    Melded Bread    Harmony Bread     Blended Bread    Compounded Bread    Bread Medley    Bread Me'lange    Potpourri Bread   Miscellany Bread  

What do you think?  Any votes or other suggestions?   

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CountryBoy

Poilane-Style Miche and need for advice on a smoother crumb

A few days ago I baked a couple of loaves of Poilane-Style Miche from PR's BBA and they did ok but the crumb was tougher and waxier than I would have liked. Can people familiar with this recipe tell me how I might make the crumb lighter?  Should I put in a couple of eggs? Milk? Vegetable oil?  Since I am a novice I am reluctant to substitute with recipes I am not familiar with.

Please note below that since I have no easy access to medium grind WW flour I have, as P.Reinhart suggested, gone with the 50/50 of bread flour /WW flour alternative.  

The recipe is as follows: 

Firm Starter

.......1 cup Barm

.......2 cups Sifted medium grind whole wheat flour* ( 1 cup bread flour, 1 cup WW flour) 

........1/2 cup of water 

Final Dough

.......7 cups  Sifted medium grind whole wheat flour* (3.5 cups Bread Flour,3.5 cups WW flour)
.......2 T Coarse sea salt
.......2-2 ¾ cups Water, lukewarm

ps: note to David, yes, I have RTFM......several times. 

 

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