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StevenSensei

This is a modification of the recipe originally published in Reinhart's Whole Grain Breads - (Bread Calculator / Recipe)

 

This week it was time to try another whole grain bread. The spiced Swedish Limpa bread looked like a winner. I was a bit hesitant given the use of fennel and anise seeds along with cardamom and cumin. More on this later.

 

I decided to modify the recipe to a more traditional 3 day bread and dropped the use of commercial yeast. Opting instead for a 100% rye starter for any leavening. With this change the bread is actually 50% rye and 50% whole wheat. This is a heavy and dense bread without a lot of gluten development. In fact, bringing this bread together reminded me a lot of doing a 100% whole grain rye. The lack of gluten means working the dough a bit and just trying to get it to come together. I added a little bit more water when the dough first came together because it felt quite dry. That addition made the dough a bit too sticky…but it’s fine…like a 100% rye we are not going to get a nice smooth dough and taught skin.

 

I measured and lightly ground the spices in a motor and pestle. Wow! What an amazing smell. I was super pleased with the anise and fennel combination. I was afraid it would be too much like licorice but it was fine. They really complement one another and stand up as a subtle flavor against the strength of the rye.

 

The bulk went fine and I did see a 50% growth as I wanted in a reasonable amount of time which also let me know that the refresh of my starter a few weeks back has worked just fine. After a very rough shaping of the dough and a healthy amount of rice flower on the banneton liner it was into the fridge for the night. The next morning the bake went fine and as expected there was not much rise to the bread. This one is quite flat, which is exactly what I expected given the rye content. The outer loaf isn’t super pretty because of how I brushed off the rice flour…but the inside…oh my! This is the kind of moist dark complex rye that I love. I need to try to slice it super thin and toast it till it snaps like a cracker. 

 

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Tasting Notes: This has a strong sourdough tang from the high percentage of rye flour. The smell is amazing and complex with all of the spices. I love cumin in most things, and was careful to dial the amount in this bread back as warned in the text from the book. That said the bites that do have cumin in them the cumin is quite forward and gives a more savory note which does not go as well with all of the other flavors. If I do this bread again I would drop the cumin and increase the anise to 3g. Every bite of this bread is an adventure in the best way.

 

Time/Effort: Not a lot of effort for this other than dealing with a difficult to work with low gluten dough. If this isn’t your thing you could easily drop the whole wheat in favor of a strong bread flour and likely be just fine.  

 

Would I make it again: For sure! The flavors are great. In fact I could see using the seed mix in just a normal sourdough, or even using these in a whole rye instead of caraway (which is also a great flavor for rye bread). I’m pretty sure that there is a recipe for this style of bread in the Bread Bakers Appetence as well that might be worth looking at.

 

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agres

I have been making bread here for 22 years. We have good tap water, so I used it for bread, and never thought about it. My schedules for starter were about the same as it the books, so I was happy.

A few years ago, I started milling my own flour, and my starter with the fresh ground flour, was more active. I was happy.

Recently I was reminded that even good tap water has disinfectants in it that kill microorganisms such as those in sourdough. I moved to boiling my water to remove the . Now my sourdough rises faster. I am happy.

I use boiled and cooled water for the sourdough starter, and that works.

However, I suddenly understand the value of a 3- hour autolyze for bread flour. As the flour is hydrating, the disinfectants are dissipating. By the time you add the leaven to the hydrated flour, the disinfectants that were in the tap water are gone, and your sourdough can rise very fast.

In the spring and fall, I let the sourdough final rise on the kitchen counter at 65 - 68 F and that works. As summer approaches,  I do the bacterial fermentation at room temperature (74F) and do the final rise in refrigerator. 

 

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Ilya Flyamer

Continuing to enjoy the particular high extraction flour widely available here in Switerland aka Ruchmehl. It is very strong, holds a lot of water, and produces tasty and fluffy bread. Very non-white, but also without any grassiness or bitterness that whole wheat breads sometimes have.

This time I threw together some dough for two loaves using 110 g rye levain (1:10 grown during the day at 25C until doubled and then refrigerated until afternoon next day), some of leftover liquid starter (~110 g also, has been in the fridge for a long time) from the experiments following Rus Brot's "yeast-less" bread (which contained some rye schrot, red rye malt, active barley malt, and some raisins), lightly toasted and soaked 50 g pumpkin and 50 g sunflower seeds, and also a couple handfuls of toasted sesame seeds, with 800 g ruchmehl and water until good consistency, not trying to push the hydration, I'd guess around 75% accounting for everything.

I used warm water and kept the dough warm around 25C, but still was surprised how quickly the fermentation proceeded: the dough looked and ready in around 4-4.5 hours, despite the levain having been refrigerated, and the liquid starter had been in the fridge for 3 weeks I think.

Pre-shaped, shaped, rolled in sesame seeds, and final proofed overnight on the balcony, which should be around fridge temperature. The loaves visible grew by morning, and actually felt quite fragile on the verge of overproofing. Luckily I think I caught them just in time, they had decent oven spring, and great crumb. Forgot to take a picture of the batard-shaped one, here is is after cutting:


There aren't too many seeds in the crumb, but the pumpkin and sunflower seeds are quite large, so biting just into one gives a very nice nutty taste. The sesame seeds on the crust are as usual completely intoxicating. Crust is quite thin and crispy, crumb is soft and tender. There is clearly some sourness, more than I usually get, probably due to using refrigerated starters, in particular the liquid one. Not sure if it's visible in the photos, but I think even the tiny amount of red rye malt (less than 10 g) from the liquid starter darkened the crumb a little and gave a reddish hue, looks quite nice.

Anyway, I'm still very pleased with this flour, such a thrown together recipe, but the result is great. And nice to bounce back from semi-failed rye breads from my previous post.

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Benito

I have several bags of semola rimacinata sitting in my closet that I almost forgot about. So although I have been baking a lot of whole grains I have in the back of my been thinking that I’d like to see what an enriched semolina bread might be like, hopefully it is good.

Instructions

Levain

Mix the levain ingredients in a jar or pyrex container with space for at least 300% growth. 

Press down with your knuckles or silicone spatula to create a uniform surface and to push out air.

At a temperature of 76ºF, it typically takes up to 10-12 hours for this sweet stiff levain to be at peak.  For my starter I typically see 3-3.5 times increase in size at peak.  The levain will smell sweet with only a mild tang.

Tangzhong 

Put about 1” of water sauce pan set on medium high heat. In the bowl of the stand mixer stir the milk and flour until blended. Then place the bowl on the sauce pan to cook the tangzhong (Bain Marie) for several minutes until well thickened, stirring regularly with a spoon or heat-resistant spatula. Theoretically it should reach 65ºC (149ºF) but I don’t find I need to measure the temperature as the tangzhong gelatinizes at this temperature.  Let cool in the bowl and then refrigerate until the next morning.

 

Dough

Into the bowl of a stand mixer with the tangzhong, add the milk (consider holding back 10 g of milk and adding later if this is the first time you’re making this), egg, salt, sugar, diastatic malt (optional) and levain.  Mix and then break up the levain into many smaller pieces.  Next add the flour and vital wheat gluten.  I like to use my spatula to mix until there aren’t many dry areas.  Allow the flour to hydrate (fermentolyse) for 20-30 minutes.  Mix on low speed and then medium speed until moderate gluten development this may take 5-10 mins.  You may want to scrape the sides of the bowl during the first 5 minutes of mixing.  Next drizzle in the melted butter a little at a time, or alternatively add room temperature butter one pat at a time.  Slow the mixer down to avoid splashing the butter at you. The dough may come apart, be patient, continue to mix until it comes together before drizzling or adding in more butter.  Once all the butter has been added and incorporated increase the speed gradually to medium.  Mix at medium speed until the gluten is well developed, approximately 10 mins.  You will want to check gluten development by windowpane during this time and stop mixing when you get a good windowpane.  You should be able to pull a good windowpane, not quite as good as a white flour because the bran will interrupt the windowpane somewhat.  This is a good time to add inclusions such as my favorite black sesame seeds, that way they do not interfere with the gluten development.  If you add inclusions mix until they are well incorporated in the dough.

 

On the counter, shape the dough into a tight ball, cover in the bowl and ferment for 2.5-3.5 hours at 82ºF.  There may be some rise visible at this stage.

 

You can next place the dough into the fridge to chill the dough for about 1.5 hours, this makes rolling the dough easier to shape.  Remember, if you do so the final proof will take longer.  Alternatively, you can do a cold retard in the fridge overnight, however, you may find that this increases the tang in your bread.

 

Prepare your pans by greasing them or line with parchment paper.  

 

Lightly flour the top of the dough. Scrape the dough out onto a clean counter top and divide it into four. I like to weigh them to have equal sized lobes. Shape each tightly into a boule, allow to rest 5 mins. Using a rolling pin roll each ball out and then letterfold. Turn 90* and using a rolling pin roll each out to at least 8”. Letterfold again from the sides so you have a long narrow dough. Then using a rolling pin, roll flatter but keeping the dough relatively narrow.  The reason to do this extra letterfold is that the shorter fatter rolls when placed in the pan will not touch the sides of the pan.  This allows the swirled ends to rise during final proof, this is only done for appearance sake and is not necessary.  Next roll each into a tight roll with some tension. 

 

If you are applying seeds to the crust, either brush the top of each roll with water or flip the roll of dough onto a wet cloth to dampen the surface.  Place the roll top down into a bowl with the seeds rolling it until there are a lot of seeds on the dough.  

 

Arrange the rolls of dough inside your lined pan alternating the direction of the swirls. This should allow a greater rise during proof and in the oven.

 

Cover and let proof for 6-8 hours at a warm temperature.  I proof at 82°F.  You will need longer than 6-8 hours if you chilled your dough for shaping. I proof until the top of the dough comes to within 1 cm of the top edge of the pan.

 

Preheat the oven to 350F and brush the dough with the egg-milk wash.  You do not need to use the egg wash if you are seeding the outside of the dough.  Just prior to baking brush with the egg-milk wash again.

 

Bake the loaves for 50 minutes or until the internal temperature is at least 190ºF, rotating as needed to get even browning. Shield your loaf if it gets brown early in the baking process. After 50 mins remove the bread from the pan and bake a further 10 mins by placing the loaf directly in the oven on the rack with the oven turned down to 325ºF. You can brush the top of the loaf with butter if you wish at this point while the bread is still hot to keep the top crust soft.

My index of bakes.

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Benito

For those unfamiliar Lap Cheong are the Chinese sausages that are dry cured and super flavourful. I haven’t had these in decades and saw them at the local Chinese market so had to pick up a package. I decided to use them in a filled bun to showcase the flexibility of the SD Hokkaido Milk bread dough. For these buns I decided on a whim to use 50% WW and 50% bread flour. The in addition to the Lap Cheong the filling has oyster sauce and scallions. I’ve topped them with black sesame cutting three of the buns to make them look like sunflowers in support of Ukraine but in fact I think they look more like black eyed Susans.

Prepare both the tangzhong and the stiff sweet levain the night before you plan to bake. I’ve started to prepare the tangzhong using a Bain Marie with the tangzhong in the bowl of a standmixer. This way there is less tangzhong lost having to transfer it out of a pot and into the bowl of the standmixer. The tangzhong can then be refrigerated once it has cooled and the levain can be left to ferment at 78°F and will be ready when it is about 3-3.5x risen which will be between 9-12 hours.

 

In the morning, to the bowl of the stand mixer with the tangzhong inside add milk, salt, sugar, egg and mix. Then add all the levain cutting into small pieces with your spatula. Next add both flours and mix with your spatula until there is no visible dry flour. Rest for 20-30 mins.

Prepare three Lap Cheong placing them in simmering water for at least 12-15 minutes. You will see fat on the surface of the water from the sausage. Remove the sausages and cool a bit. Slice the sausages into quarters lengthwise. Remove the casings and discard the casings. Then cut the quartered sausages into small pieces, repeat with all three sausages. Place the cut pieces in a bowl adding oyster sauce just to coat along with chopped green onions (2-3 only using the green parts).

Using the dough hook of your stand mixer mix until at least moderate gluten development. Then add the room temperature butter one pat at a time until all the butter is incorporated. Continue to mix until full gluten development. Remove the dough from the bowl and perform a bench letterfold. Transfer the dough to a clean bowl and allow to ferment at 82°F for 6 hours. At this point the dough had a 30% increase in volume.

Remove the dough from the bowl onto the counter and divide the dough into six equal pieces. Shape into tight boules then rest for 15 mins. In order to shape each bun so that the bottom crumb isn’t greatly thicker than the top of each bun you’ll want to roll each boule out so that the center of the circle of dough is thicker than the edge. That way when you fold the dough closed the bottom won’t be thicker than the top. I use my rolling pin rolling out but not rolling over the center.

Fill each circle of dough with about 2 tsp of the fillling. The carefully fold the dough over the filling all around to encase the filling completely. Ensure you pinch the dough closed otherwise the bun may open during baking.

Place the the buns on a parchment lined cookie tray and either place them in a plastic bag or put them in a humid warm place. I used my oven with the light on and a cup of boiled water for humidity. After two hours or so the buns passed the poke test and the aliquot jar showed an 88% rise.

 

I should also note the pH information. The dough at the time of mixing had a pH of 5.81 and at the start of bake the pH was only 5.29. So again the stiff sweet levain produces sourdough bread that isn’t sour.

Pre-heat the oven to 400°F 30 mins prior to when the buns will be fully proofed. At that time give the buns decorative cuts with scissors to give them the appearance of flowers, this is optional. Next brush them with an egg wash (1 egg, 1 tbsp milk and a pinch of salt). Just before baking brush them again with the egg wash and then finally apply the black sesame seeds.

 Bake for 30 mins at 350°F (drop the temperature) rotating the cookie tray halfway through. Watch the top crust as they may darken quickly and you may need to shield them. Remove from oven and allow to cool.
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Bröterich

My attempt at making this bread. There were two loaves, nearly square. They expanded and matted together in the oven. Pleasant taste, good expansion and open crumb.

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Martadella

Lovely rye/wheat rolls, mostly wholegrain. I made them with two preferments, one rye with rye starter,  and the second one made with whole wheat flour and a pinch of yeast. Both of them were 100% hydration,  for the sake if simplicity and easiness of mixing. I let them ferment for most of the day, about 8 hours. 

I also boiled and mashed a smallish potato and, while still hot, mixed it with 2 tablespoons of rye flour and then kept it nice and warm for several hours. 

In the final dough I used plus minus 50% rye, 25% whole wheat and 25% bread flour. Salt, of course, and a mix of spices: caraway,  fennel and fenugreek. 

Dough was very sticky but with some gluten structure present. Quite nice to work with, but it was necessary to use a very gentle hand. 

Smell while baking, really delightful. 

And I also made some fresh plant based cheese.

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Another Girl

My husband isn’t a big sourdough fan, so I will occasionally fiddle around with ways to minimize the acidity in our bread. Recently, I was thumbing through the second edition of Hamelman's Bread and was intrigued by his introduction to the formula for Swiss Farm Bread, in which he notes a lack of acidity. I decided to give it a try. 

The bread is started with yeast produced from a raisin soak, which was to be a new experience for me. When I ran into trouble, I consulted TFL and found a community bake dedicated to this very bread. Without going into the details all over again (my experience making YW is posted in the Swiss Farm Bread Yeast Water CB), suffice it to say that with a little help from the TFL brain trust, I was eventually successful in starting a yeast water made with apples. By that time, unfortunately, my schedule would not permit a bake for at least a week and I did not want to wait that long. I had Tuesday mostly free, but my free time would be punctuated by interruptions. And with two levain builds, the first of which could reportedly run long, I knew Tuesday probably didn’t have enough hours to give this bread its due. Still, if the dough progressed roughly according to the timelines outlined in the book, I thought I might be able to make it kinda, sorta work. And besides all that, I had an itch to make this bread and was determined to scratch it.

As it played out, the dough did not conform to the time estimates in the book, but that is probably because my day didn’t work out as planned. I ended up stopping Build 2 a little short (it tripled in volume, but I didn’t feel it had peaked), but due to a schedule change, I felt compelled to hope 200% growth would be sufficient. It wasn’t, and the bulk progressed very slowly. I ended up calling the bulk after 5 hours when the dough had risen maybe 30% percent and still looked and felt rather dense. Then I had to leave the house for a few hours, so I refrigerated the shaped loaf. When I returned, there was some slight drying around the edges so I dabbed a bit of water on the dry spots to remoisten them. This of course caused the dough to stick like glue when I tried to turn it out of the banneton. (I know, I know…) 

So. Not exactly a text book bake, but I pretty much always screw up something. And I knew this one wouldn’t be textbook before I even started. But I satisfied my urge to try a yeast water bread and now have some idea of what to expect when I can bake this interesting bread with time on my side. I have a not perfect but certainly enjoyable bread to show for my efforts. And next time, I'll know to add the fruit.

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rondayvous

This bread was made using the quick ciabatta recipe here on the site, link below.

I made two changes. #1 I replaced 100g of bread flour with First Clear to get closer to the french flours. #2 as soon as the dough was pulling away from the mixing bowl, I put it into a well-oiled covered bowl and placed it in the fridge.

Left it there for about 16 hours before putting it on my kitchen table and letting it warm up and triple in the next 2 or three hours.

Here is the link to the original recipe:

https://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/2984/jasons-quick-coccodrillo-ciabatta-bread

It was cooked on a pizza stone on the next to the bottom shelf of my convection oven. I sprayed it with water every 5 minutes or so and cooked it at 500 degrees for about 30 minutes or so. It was never really touched I did the second proof on cloth and rolled it over onto parchment paper before putting it into the oven.

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Isand66

3APR

I needed to make some nice soft buns for sandwiches and hopefully burgers if it ever stops raining.  I’ve made a version of these several times and they never fail to disappoint.

I really love the grains I’ve been getting from Barton Spring Mills and replaced the rye in the original formula with Rouge de Bordeaux freshly ground Whole Wheat.  I’ve been doing 2 passes through my Mockmill 200 sifting with a #30 and then a #40 to get a real fine whole wheat flour.

The butter and ricotta combination really made for a wonderful soft and open crumb.  These rolls came out excellent with toasted onions, smoked cheddar and black sesame toppings for a nice variety.

These are a rather high hydration dough when you take the water content of the ricotta cheese and eggs into account so be warned :).

Tangzhong is the technique of heating a portion of the flour and liquid in your recipe to approximately 65C to make a paste (roux).  At this temperature the flour undergoes a change and gelatinizes.  By adding this roux to your final dough it will help create a soft, fluffy, moist open crumb.  It is also supposed to help prevent the bread from going stale.

It is not very difficult to do a Tangzhong.  Use a  5 to 1 liquid to solid ratio (so 250g liquid to 50g flour) and mix it together in a pan.  Heat the pan while stirring constantly.  Initially it will remain a liquid, but as you approach 65C it will undergo a change and thicken to an almost pudding like consistency.  Take it off the heat and let it cool before using it in your recipe.  Some people will refrigerate it for a while but you can use it right away as soon as it cools.

Levain Directions Build 1 (Using AP Starter at 66% Hydration for Seed)

Mix all the levain ingredients together  for about 1 minute and cover with plastic wrap.  Let it sit at room temperature for around 7-8 hours or until the starter has doubled.  I used my Proofer set at 81 degrees and it took about 4 hours.

Main Dough Directions
Prepare the Tangzhong per directions above and allow to cool to room temperature.

Mix the flours, Tangzhong, eggs, ricotta and water together in your mixer or by hand until it just starts to come together, maybe about 1 minute.  Let it rest in your work bowl covered for 20-30 minutes.  Next add the salt, butter, and starter (cut into about 7-8 pieces), and  mix on low for a minute.  I have a Ankarsrum mixer and mixed on low speed for about 20 minutes until I had a nice smooth dough.  It may take less time if using a Kitchen Aid so mix as needed.

Remove the dough from your bowl and place it in a lightly oiled bowl or work surface and do several stretch and folds.  Let it rest covered for 10-15 minutes and then do another stretch and fold.  Let it rest another 10-15 minutes and do one additional stretch and fold.  After a total of 2 hours place your covered bowl in the refrigerator and let it rest for 12 to 24 hours.  (Note: I have a proofer set to 80 degrees F. and only let it proof for 1.5 hours.)

When you are ready to bake remove the bowl from the refrigerator and let it set out in a warm place around 80 F temperature still covered for 1 hour.   Remove the dough and cut into equal size pieces and shape into rolls.  Place on a baking sheet lined with parchment paper and cover with moist tea towels or plastic wrap sprayed with cooking spray. (Note: I made these 150 grams each on average)

The dough will take 1.5 to 2 hours depending on your room temperature.  Let the dough dictate when it is read to bake not the clock.

Around 45 minutes before ready to bake, pre-heat your oven to 450 degrees F. and prepare it for steam.  I have a heavy-duty baking pan on the bottom rack of my oven with 1 baking stone on above the pan and one on the top shelf.  I pour 1 cup of boiling water in the pan right after I place the dough in the oven.

Right before you are ready to put them in the oven, using a simple egg wash brush each roll and sprinkle on your topping of choice.   Next add 1 cup of boiling water to your steam pan or follow your own steam procedure.

After 1 minute lower the temperature to 435 degrees.  Bake for 20-30 minutes until the rolls have some nice color and the inside is around 200 degrees F.

Take the rolls out of the oven when done and let them cool on a bakers rack before for at least 1 hour before eating.

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