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foolishpoolish

Pizza

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CountryBoy

White Bread of P.Reinhart BBA, p.269

I will be baking the following recipe tomorrow and tripling the quantities.  But have no bread flour, just KA All Purpose flour.  Can I do it and add Vital Wheat Gluten to make up for the lack of bread flour?  If so, how much?  Thanks.

The recipe is:

Sponge:

Single

DoubleTriple

Ingredients

2 ½  Cups

5 Cups

7 ½ cups

Unbleached bread flour including 1 of WW?

2 teaspoons

4 tsps

4 tsps

Instant Yeast

1 ¼  Cups

2 ½ Cups

3 ¾ cups

Whole milk, water, luke warm

Dough

Single

Triple

Ingredients

1 2/3 cups

5 cups

Unbleached bread but I Try AP flour

0 tsps

2 tsps

Instant Yeast

1 ½ tsps

4 ½  tsps

Salt

3 Ts

6 Ts

Sugar / honey

1 Large

3 Large Egg Yolks

Slightly beaten at room temp

¼  Cup

¾   Cup

Butter or vegetable oil

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English Muffins and Pagnotta

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After seeing proth5's muffins I had to try them hoping to get the nooks and crannies. I messed up totally when I tried to convert the recipe to kg so ended up guessing. After several stretch and folds I let it rise for about 1 1/2 hour. It was full of big bubbles by then and I thought I want lots of holes so why should I deflate this thing and roll out all the air bubbles. I just gently turned it out on a floured board and gently pulled it out till it was about 1 1/2 - 2" high and just cut with an inverted drinking glass. I put them on cornmeal and then right onto the hot skillet still full of air bubbles, no rise time. I didn't use rings. I was happy to see all the "butter bowls" inside. I hope I can repeat the whole thing, mistakes and all. I ended up with 18. I doubled the recipe but should have ended up with 12. Oh well. Thanks proth5 for the inspiration. They toast up great.

 

My photo is very bad.

 

 

 

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Bill Wraith's Pagnotta

Today I also made Bill Wraith's Pagnotta. This bread always works well. I was on the phone when these were proofing and they went too far. I was worried they would deflate but they didn't, they just baked into each other so I'll have to pull them apart when they cool. The recipe can be found in the SEARCH. Hope you see these Bill so I can say thanks for your recipe.

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Kjknits

Flour tortillas

My family has recently embarked on a "less-is more" natural style of living. We're trying to do more things ourselves instead of relying on commercial offerings. We're also trying to get rid of the plastic in our house, which is easier said than done! But baking things I usually buy ready-made at the store, I can do.

One of the things I have switched over to making at home is flour tortillas. We love tacos and quesadillas, and flour tortillas seemed easy enough to make. I remembered seeing women make them in San Antonio when I was there several years ago. All they did was roll out a ball of dough and plop it onto a cast iron skillet for a few seconds on each side. Simple!

I found my keeper recipe at epicurious, which is one of my fave food sites. I haven't tried the wheat version yet, but the white flour tortillas are amazing.

flour tortillas

I follow the recipe pretty much exactly, but I use my stand mixer to mix and knead the dough. And I divide the dough into 16 portions, then roll them out paper thin. This makes tortillas like the ones I'm used to buying at the store, about 8" in diameter and nice and flexible and thin. I would divide them into even smaller portions for tacos, though, because 8" is more like a burrito size. Then I just cook them one by one on a preheated cast iron skillet, no oil or anything necessary (my skillet is super-seasoned, thanks to our summer favorite, fried okra). I place the cooked tortillas in a big lidded Pyrex dish while they wait for the rest to get finished.

Next item on the commercial product hit-list: corn tortillas! Good thing we have a big Hispanic influence where we live...masa harina is on every grocery store shelf.

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Kjknits

Hamburger Buns

So, I haven't posted here in Quite A While, but I made some hamburger buns the other day and thought I would share my results. I have always wanted to make my own burger buns, but the last time I tried over a year ago, they were heavy and too bready for burgers. We couldn't even finish our burgers, the night I served them on those buns! So I sort of let that idea pass away. But then a few weeks ago, I found a recipe posted on King Arthur's baking blog. I was intrigued by the method of forming the buns cinnamon-roll style, and I loved the idea of the onion swirl! So I gave them a try.

KAF burger buns

Well, first of all, they turned out beautiful. How pretty are those? The egg wash and poppy seeds really dressed them up. And the onion flavor from the dried onion swirl was really nice. Subtle, but still tasty. I added a little too much flour to this batch, though, and so they were a little more dense and heavy than I wanted. I really want homemade taste, but supermarket fluff, in my hamburger buns. So I tried them again the next weekend, added less flour (PJ says the dough should be tacky like tape, not sticky like glue, and that description helped me a lot). They were much lighter with less flour. So, I think the key to these is to avoid adding too much flour. I might try adding some milk instead of water sometime, too. It makes super light and fluffy dinner rolls, so it might also work well in hamburger buns.

(No, we didn't have french fries with our burgers that night. Instead, we had fried okra, straight from the farmer's market! Yum.)

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susanfnp

Question for experienced mud oven builders

I'm hoping for some advice from anyone who has built a mud oven... BreadNerd? Shimpiphany? Pumpkin Papa? Anyone else?

I'm not sure I understand when I can/should remove the sand form. I finished the mud layer 3 days ago and it feels rock-solid on the outside, although it still looks wet (i.e. the mud is dark in color) in most places. The weather is fairly warm and dry during the day but cool and damp at night, and the oven is in the shade most of the day. The few places where it looks like it has dried out during the day look dark again in the morning. I tried covering it with a tarp last night but that backfired as there was lots of condensation inside it in the morning. Denzer says the sand can be removed when you can just barely dent the mud inside with your finger. Well, I'm not sure how you'd check that without removing some of the sand, so I scraped away a little just inside at the top of the archway, and it definitely feels damp and has a little give to firm finger pressure, though I'm not sure I'd say I "dented" it.  The mud doesn't have any cracks in it yet.

 I need to physically leave my oven tomorrow, although I'm hoping to be able to get back here a day later, for one day, then I'll need to leave it again for another couple of days. If I haven't seen any cracks, should I just leave the sand in and see what it looks like when I return? Also, what do you think about leaving the oven covered with a tarp while I'm gone? It will impede the drying, but if it rains (which is highly unlikely but not impossible) will I be sunk?

Thanks for any input!

susanfnp

 

 

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pmccool

Walnut Stout Bread

This weekend's bake, per my wife's request, was a walnut stout bread.  The recipe that I used (note that all measurements are volumes, not weights) can be found here: http://www.kitchenlink.com/mf/2/4133.  We first saw it printed in the Kansas City Star some years ago; the link attributes it to the Houston Chronicle.  It's probably one of those recipes that was reprinted widely, since it is so good.  Oh, and don't miss the Cheddar-Ale spread recipe at the bottom of the page.  It is wonderful with this bread!

There are a couple of insights that I can offer, having made this bread on several occasions.  It is essentially a rye bread, which means that the crumb is very smooth and somewhat dense.  The dough will be sticky as you handle it.  The recipe suggests adding flour during kneading to control the stickiness but I elected to knead with one hand and clean the countertop (and my hand) with a plastic dough scraper.  It helps to keep the finished bread from being too dry.  The recipe merely says "rye flour".  I don't know if it means white rye, medium rye, or whole rye.  In my case, whole rye flour was on hand, so that is what I used and it turned out fine.  The recipe also requires 1 Tablespoon of coriander, and that is not a misprint.  Between the coriander and the anise seed, it is a very fragrant bread.  As for the stout, I've used Guinness on previous occasions with good results.  This time, I used Boulevard Brewery's Dry Stout (local to Kansas City) with equally delicious results.  I think you could get away with using any dark beer or ale, whether stout, porter, bock or dunkel.  The flavor may shift a bit, but it wouldn't upset the overall results.  Obviously, the richer the flavor of the beer or ale, the richer the flavor of the bread.  The walnuts are, to my tastes, essential for the bread.  They contribute both flavor and a crunch that play off the other flavors and textures very nicely. 

The recommended baking time is 35-45 minutes at 375F.  I checked a loaf's temperature at the 40-minute mark and it was only about 180F, so I left it in for another 10 minutes.  If it had been taken out at the recommended time, it would have been gummy.  Since I only make this every two or three years, I haven't really experimented with different temperature/time combinations.

Here is a picture of the finished loaves:

Walnut Stout Bread

Paul

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tbednarick

Hamelman's Vermont Sourdough Group Bake

Hi all,

I'll be making Hamelman's Vermont Sourdough again this weekend.  Is anyone interested in joining me and comparing notes?

You can find the recipe here: http://ostwestwind.twoday.net/stories/3707371/

I made this loaf for the first time last weekend and I finally feel like my bread starting to turn out pretty good.  I'll be concentrating on this bread for awhile, in an attempt to improve my skills.

I think the things that helped me out the most the first time I made this bread was I had refreshed the starter twice in the 24 hours before making the bread, instead of once in 12 hours.  I also followed Hamelman's instructions very closely and used a scale.

This time around, I'll be making the full home sized batch and one of the loafs will be a batard.  I've pretty much stuck will boules, but I'd like to improve my shaping skills. 

Please join me in making this delicious bread.  I really learn alot from reading other people's experience with the same recipe.

 Tonya

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bakerwendy

starter

Yesterday I started the starter from Bread Baker's Apprentice. Today when I added the second helping of water and flour I noticed some bubbles in the Day 1 mixture. I mixed in the new flour and water and marked on the side of the jar at the level of the dough. In the book Reinhart says it could maybe rise 50% by tomorrow. Well it has already risen that much in about 4 hours. I have only started a starter one other time and it seemed to take several days to do anything. Is everything alright? Thanks

update: now it has been about six hours and it is coming out the top of the 4c mason jar. I guess i am just going to divide it and add the 3rd day four and water.

Does anyone know how this could be happening so quickly? Or any advice on what i should do?  

Wendy 

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Zigs

Weak dough or Over-proofing?

I've been having consistent problems with my loaves deflating during scoring and little to no oven spring. From what I've been reading, this usually indicates over-proofed dough, but I really don't let the dough proof very long (30 minutes - 1 hour) and when I poke it before scoring, the dough still slowly rebounds.

I'm wondering if this could be an indication of dough strength instead of over-proofed dough. I really don't know what "strength" means, but I've read it could be a problem when scoring.

My breads are whole-grain (ground myself) typically either Hard White Spring or a mixture with Hard Red Spring. I'm using the Reinhart whole wheat method (biga, soaker, fridge for a day, etc...). Also using the stretch-and-fold (~4-6 folds w/half hour rests) instead of kneading.

So, any ideas on if this is a strengh issue or over-proofing? If it's strength, any tips on increasing the strength of the dough?

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