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Benito

I’ve been enjoying using Alan’s starter for my baking here in Florida.  I have made an offshoot and I’ve fed it with whole rye.  For this bake I used the rye offshoot starter to build the levain.  My intention was to make the tangzhong with whole wheat but accidentally used King Arthur bread flour so the whole wheat in this recipe is from the 20% in the stiff sweet levain.  I have continued to use about 15% of the flour from the tangzhong, I suspect that it reduces the rise compared to using less but I’ll need to bake more and see if this change is just related to my fully hand mixing and different flours than I am used to at home in Canada.

Rosemary, pepper and potato together are one of my favourite combinations so I decided I needed to try it in a milk bread.  This one didn’t disappoint.

For one 9x4x4” Pullman pan loaf.

 

Instructions

Levain

Mix the levain ingredients in a jar or pyrex container with space for at least 300% growth. 

Press down with your knuckles or silicone spatula to create a uniform surface and to push out air.

At a temperature of 76-78ºF, it typically takes up to 10-12 hours for this sweet stiff levain to be at peak.  For my starter I typically see 3-3.5 times increase in size at peak.  The levain will smell sweet with only a mild tang.

Tangzhong 

In a sauce pan set on medium heat, stir the milk and whole wheat flour until blended. Then cook for several minutes until well thickened, stirring regularly with a spoon or heat-resistant spatula. Let cool in the pan or, for faster results, in a new bowl.  Theoretically it should reach 65ºC (149ºF) but I don’t find I need to measure the temperature as the tangzhong gelatinizes at this temperature.  You can prepare this the night before and refrigerate it, ensure that it is covered to prevent it from drying out.

 

If you plan on using a stand mixer to mix this dough, set up a Bain Marie and use your stand mixer’s bowl to prepare the tangzhong.

 

Dough

In the bowl of a stand mixer, add the milk (consider holding back 10 g of milk and adding later if this is the first time you’re making this), egg, tangzhong, salt, sugar and levain.  Mix and then break up the levain into many smaller pieces.  Next add the flours.  I like to use my spatula to mix until there aren’t many dry areas.  Allow the flour to hydrate (fermentolyse) for 20-30 minutes.  Mix on low speed and then medium speed until moderate gluten development this may take 5-10 mins.  You may want to scrape the sides of the bowl during the first 5 minutes of mixing.  Next add room temperature butter one pat at a time.  The dough may come apart, be patient, continue to mix until it comes together before adding in more butter.  Once all the butter has been added and incorporated add the mashed potatoes.  Again, knead until well incorporated.  You will want to check gluten development by windowpane during this time and stop mixing when you get a good windowpane.  You should be able to pull a good windowpane, not quite as good as a white flour because the bran will interrupt the windowpane somewhat. 

 

To develop by hand, melt the butter and add it with the wet ingredients.  Develop the gluten with slap and folds.

 

On the counter, shape the dough into a tight ball, cover in the bowl and ferment for 2 - 3 hours at 82ºF.  There should be some rise visible at this stage.

 

You can next place the dough into the fridge to chill the dough for about 1.5 hours, this makes rolling the dough easier to shape.  Remember, if you do so the final proof will take longer.  Alternatively, you can do a cold retard in the fridge overnight, however, you may find that this increases the tang in your bread.

 

Prepare your pans by greasing them with butter or line with parchment paper.  

 

Lightly flour the top of the dough. Scrape the dough out onto a clean counter top and divide it into four. I like to weigh them to have equal sized lobes. Shape each tightly into a boule, allow to rest 5 mins. Using a rolling pin roll each ball out and then letterfold. Turn 90* and using a rolling pin roll each out to at least 8”. Letterfold again from the sides so you have a long narrow dough. Then using a rolling pin, roll flatter but keeping the dough relatively narrow.  The reason to do this extra letterfold is that the shorter fatter rolls when placed in the pan will not touch the sides of the pan.  This allows the swirled ends to rise during final proof, this is only done for appearance sake and is not necessary.  Next roll each into a tight roll with some tension. Arrange the rolls of dough inside your lined pan alternating the direction of the swirls. This should allow a greater rise during proof and in the oven.

 

Cover and let proof for  4-6 hours at a warm temperature.  I proof at 82°F.  You will need longer than 4-6 hours if you chilled your dough for shaping. I proof until the top of the dough comes to within 1 cm of the top edge of the pan.

 

Preheat the oven to 350F and brush the dough with the egg-milk wash.  Just prior to baking brush with the egg-milk wash again.

 

Bake the loaves for 50 minutes or until the internal temperature is at least 190ºF, rotating as needed to get even browning. Shield your loaf if it gets brown early in the baking process. After 50 mins remove the bread from the pan and bake a further 10 mins by placing the loaf directly in the oven on the rack with the oven turned down to 325ºF. You can brush the top of the loaf with butter if you wish at this point while the bread is still hot to keep the top crust soft.

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altafkw

Last summer i visited Scandinivia, and it was an chance to explore nordic breads.

And the most common daily bread was Rugbrød the famous danish rye bread. 

It's a healthy nutritious bread, rich in protein and dietary fiber.

And Buttered rugbrød is essentially the base for Danish open sandwich smørrebrød.

when i went back home, i started reading and watching tutorials to learn how to bake it.

So i tried the rye starter recipe but the outcome didn't meet my expectations, a strong un desirable sour taste. And i kept searching until i found a hybrid version of global baker Dean Brettscneider in his BREAD cookbook. It consist of both sourdough and dried yeast, rye and bread flour with a touch of coco powder and carrots.

Truly, i liked it!

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SueVT

Every time I bake panettone, I try to build on what has worked, what I've learned, and new things I want to try out.

This bake is caramel apple; the result is very satisfying: moist, delicate, shreddable, flavored with spices, caramel bits and apple. No off-flavors or acidity. 

My lievito madre, and my understanding of it, has improved gradually over the last year, and it is true that fermentation is the main key to making panettone. But also, the other elements of this bake, and in fact all the steps of the process, contribute to the result.  With so many different sources of information out there, each baker must find their own path through the maze of seemingly conflicting ideas.

 

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CalBeachBaker

Today's bake: Épis de Blé

Source: King Arthur Test Kitchen - Martin Philip

Note(s):Doubled recipe.

This bread is made from King Arthur All-Purpose Flour .

All baked on a baking steel with a steam pan and 500ml boiling water.

This is my 1st attempt making this bread and will definitely will be baking it again.

Changes/Recommendations - When I make this bread again - work on improving the scoring by angling the cuts a little more. The poolish was not as active I'd expected so I need to test the yeast.

Tasting Notes

Crumb: Sweet/Dairy - Milk

Crust: Toasty - Malty

Grain Character: Simple - Dry Yeast

This is a really nice bread which I will be making again hopefully developing the airy crumb I'd expect from this type of bread.

Recipe and Process are below for those that are interested.

 

 

 

 

 

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Yippee

 

Please see here and here to learn more about concentrated lactic acid sourdough (CLAS).

 

 

 

Ingredients

85% fresh whole durum flour

15% whole durum flour from durum CLAS

22.5% water from durum CLAS

10% butter

6% olive oil

22% tomato sauce

1% coarse black pepper

2% salt

 

Total dough weight ~500g

divided into 50g dough balls

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rosemary and oregano from my garden

 

 

 

 

Blend the herbs with fresh durum flour in Vitamix

 

 

 

Mix a stiff dough 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Divide and freeze, similar to handling durum noodle dough

 

 

 

Roll the dough thinner to make crisps - pasta roller #5

 

 

 

Halve the dough to fit in the air fryer

 

 

 

Use a trivet to prevent the dough from flying

 

 

 

285F x 2mins

flip

285F x 2mins

 

 

 

 

whole-durum crisps!

 

 

 

 

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Benito

These buns are super soft and fluffy get hold up to a fish burger nicely.  The sweet potato gives it a bit of extra sweetness while the tangzhong helps with flavour and freshness.  They are topped with black, white and golden sesame seeds.

Substitute mashed sweet potato for the mashed potatoes above to make these.

For 8 buns about 65 g each

 

egg wash: 1 yolk, 1 tbsp milk and a pinch of salt, beaten…

 

Instructions

Levain

Mix the levain ingredients in a jar or pyrex container with space for at least 300% growth. 

Press down with your knuckles or silicone spatula to create a uniform surface and to push out air.

At a temperature of 76ºF, it typically takes up to 10-12 hours for this stiff  sweet levain to be at peak.  For my starter I typically see 3-3.5 times increase in size at peak.  The levain will smell sweet with only a mild tang.

 

Tangzhong 

In a sauce pan set on medium heat, stir the milk and flour until blended. Then cook for several minutes until well thickened, stirring regularly with a spoon or heat-resistant spatula. Let cool in the pan or, for faster results, in a new bowl.  Theoretically it should reach 65ºC (149ºF) but I don’t find I need to measure the temperature as the tangzhong gelatinizes at this temperature.  You can prepare this the night before and refrigerate it, ensure that it is covered to prevent it from drying out.

 

Dough

In the bowl of a stand mixer, add the milk (consider holding back 10 g of milk and adding later if this is the first time you’re making this), egg, tangzhong, salt, sugar and levain.  Mix and then break up the levain into many smaller pieces.  Next add the flour, I like to use my spatula to mix until there aren’t many dry areas.  Allow the flour to hydrate (fermentolyse) for 15 minutes.  Mix on low speed and then medium speed until moderate gluten development this may take 5-10 mins.  You may want to scrape the sides of the bowl during the first 5 minutes of mixing.  Next drizzle in the melted butter a little at a time, or alternatively add room temperature butter one pat at a time.  Slow the mixer down to avoid splashing the butter at you. The dough may come apart, be patient, continue to mix until it comes together before drizzling or adding in more butter.  Once all the butter has been added and incorporated increase the speed gradually to medium.  Add the mashed sweet potatoes gradually.  Mix at medium speed until the gluten is well developed, approximately 10 mins.  You will want to check gluten development by windowpane during this time and stop mixing when you get a good windowpane.  You should be able to pull a good windowpane.

 

You can definitely mix and knead these by hand as I did.  I melted the butter and added it with the wet ingredient.  Then follow the instructions instead kneading by slap and folding.

 

On the counter, shape the dough into a tight ball, cover in the bowl and ferment for 2.5-3.5 hours at 82ºF.  There should be some rise visible at this stage.

 

You can next place the dough into the fridge to chill the dough for about 1.5 hours, this makes rolling the dough easier to shape.  Remember, if you do so the final proof will take longer.  Alternatively, you can do a cold retard in the fridge overnight, however, you may find that this increases the tang in your bread.

 

Line a large cookie tray with parchment paper.  Punch the dough down and then divide into 8 equal portions.  Form each into tight boules.  Place on a parchment lined cookie tray.  Cover them and allow them to fully proof about 4-6 hours, they should pass the poke test.

 

After about 30 mins of proofing time, whisk your remaining egg and milk and then brush the small boules.

 

About 30 mins prior to end of final proof preheat the oven to 350°F. 

Immediately prior to baking brush the dough again with the egg and milk mixture.

 

Bake the buns uncovered for 30-35 minutes or until the internal temperature is at least 190F. Cover if your rolls get brown early in the baking process.

My index of bakes.

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CrustyJohn

Basically a second go-round with my loaf earlier this year except that I was lazy with the polenta- instead of doing the whole saccharification process, I just microwaved it.  

King Arthur bread flour- 360g (80%)

Bob's Red Mill whole wheat flour- 90g (20%)

water- 340g (75%)

starter- 50g (11%)

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salt- ~3 tsp

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45g Cateto Orange polenta from Redtail Grains

150g water

tbsp Rag & Frass Farm cane syrup

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Mix starter & water, add flours, mix until incorporated, "autolyse" 1 hr. (~65 deg.)

Stretch and fold + "lamination" folds over next 3 hours

incorporate cooked polenta about midway through stretch and fold process

bulk ferment ~8.5-9 hours @ ~65-67 deg.

pre-shap, shape, retard for ~11 hrs. @ ~40s? deg. 

Bake (use pre-heated pizza stone and overturned dutch oven) 22 min @ "500" (I think the oven runs about 25 degrees low, so the real temp might be more like 475), uncover, bake another 10 min. drop temperature to 450 for 20 min., turn off oven and let bread cool on rack in hot oven.

  

I really like this one.  I'm really enjoying using the pizza stone to bake on as it allows the loaf to spread a bit more organically than when I bake in a small dutch oven.  It's also avoids handling the dough after turning it out of the proofing basket.  I think this is up there with some of my favorite loaves I've baked.  I really like the deeply browned crust contrasting with the really soft, sweet polenta-enriched crumb.  The polenta was a little blob-y rather than smooth and creamy, but cooking it in the microwave was really quick and easy.  

 

Any though on why the left side of the loaf seems to be a bit more consistently open than the right?  Shaping?

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CalBeachBaker

Today's bake: Drunken Fig Bread

Source: Sourdough Recipes for Rustic Fermented Breads Sweets, Savories, and More - Sarah Owens

Note(s):  Modified leaven  fermenting time. ^dough from 1.367kg  to 1.7kg
Soaker: When making Leaven remove fig  stems, coarsely chop. In a bowl add figs and wine then cover.

This bread is made from a 6 types of flour as can be seen in the formula.

One loaf is baked in a Challenger bread pan which produced a really crispy crust, another on a baking steel with a steam pan which produces a less crunchy crust.

This is my 1st attempt making this bread and will definitely will be baking it again.

Changes/Recommendations - When I make this bread again - work on improving the scoring, and steaming.

Tasting Notes

Crumb: Sour/Dairy - Plain Yogurt - there is a nice combination of flavors due to the 6 types of flour. I am surprised at the amount of flavor that the buckwheat adds.  The flavors I'm getting are nice mix of nuttiness and a little tannin from the wine and the delightful sweetness from the mission figs.

Crust: Toasty - Nutty

Grain Character: Complex - Cooked Whole Grains

This is a really nice dense bread which I will be making again.

Recipe and Process are below for those that are interested.

 

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Yippee

 

Please see here and here to learn more about concentrated lactic acid sourdough (CLAS).

 

 

I need to find a way to speed up using the fifty-pound durum berries I bought from Central Milling when their shipping costs were still reasonable. So I use them to make 100% whole-durum noodles with CLAS. Surprisingly, the durum noodles have some sweet aroma that others don't, although the recipe is similar to spelt noodles. Of all the noodles I've made, my family likes durum noodles the best. Through practice, I am getting better at making stiff dough for the noodles. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

P.S. 20230213 Stress-free "mass production"

 

How can I make large batches of durum noodles, i.e., use more durum berries at a time, without overwhelming myself with the extra work? 🤔🤔🤔                   💡💡💡 Freeze the dough!  This is the stiffest dough I've ever made! 13% whole durum flour, from whole-durum CLAS87% fresh whole durum flour, ground by Vitamix19% water, from whole-durum CLAS40% extra large egg4% seasonings Total dough weight ~1040gdurum berries used ~640g                            Divide the dough into 50g portions and freeze.            Thaw out the portions needed at room temperature.            roll out            pasta roller#1 x 1 😰😰😰            Lightly mist the dough before each subsequent fold and pass, until 👉👉👉            pasta roller#1 x 1, fold; repeat a few times until the dough is smooth                                                                  pasta roller #2 x 2        pasta roller #3 x 2         pasta roller #4 x 2                                                               fettuccine cutter x 1                                                                              Whole-durum noodles with pork belly and homemade cracklins - this time, I made sure I didn't leave out the cracklins!                           

 

 

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jo_en

 

Recipes by rus brot (please report any errors) 

Recipes on foodgeek calculator can be scaled, personalized and saved.

1

Tsukatniki with Raisins, 1940 (CLAS)

flours: light rye and first clear flour; solod

recipe Foodgeek: https://fgbc.dk/30u9

rus brot YThttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOxVEDfX74Q&list=PLrSg5cYpPtU-8Nd_ljnhXHLpaXe9oH5jN&index=27

          

 

 

 

2

Borodinsky Bread in 30 hrs (CLAS)    

(above ZOJI bake: 2023-03-01)

flours: whole rye flour and first clear flour; solod  (68% hydration)

recipe Foodgeekhttps://fgbc.dk/3126

rus brot YThttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niIcAuRRxWo 

          

 

Higher Hydration Version (98%) recipe by Beets and Bones

 

baked in ZOJI

 

3

Salinātā rudzu rupjmaize - most delicious rye bread ever (Thermophilic-sd) (see bake by Yippee)

flours:   

recipe Foodgeek: coming

rus brot YThttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo7_nP6OhwA

         

         

 

 

 

 

4

Scalded 100% whole rye bread with Raisins (CLAS!) (see bake by Ilya F.)

flours: whole rye, solod

recipe Foodgeekhttps://fgbc.dk/1o2h (Ilya F.-w/permission; thanks!)

rus brot YT:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpAfPmKkn_Q&list=PLrSg5cYpPtU96v2LWR9rETxWDEHe3iIcj&index=37

          

  

 

 

 

 

5      

Šventinė duona - Thermophilic

(above ZOJI bake: 2023-02-09)

flours: white (light) rye, wheat flour T110 (bolted rye used above)

recipe Foodgeek:  https://fgbc.dk/314l

rus brot YThttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPbK6PwKvc8

          

Whole Grain Version: freshly ground whole rye (35%) and whole white wheat (65%) ; hydration (70-73%)- mini Loaf.  Wonderful fragrance and flavor!!

 TFL post: https://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/72226/rusbrot-thsd-%C5%A1ventin%C4%97-duona-100-whole-grains

 

 

Simple Wheat Boule-THermophilic SourDough

flours:  bread flour (60% hydration)  

recipe Foodgeek: https://fgbc.dk/316a

rus brot YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVd-qrqLe7o

          

Loaf Version (80% hydration, 100% fresh whole grains;)

ZOJI Bake: 2023-02 (used 120 g TH-SD)

  

Square version

ZOJI Bake: 2024-01-16 (used only 55 gr TH-SD)

recipe foodgeekhttps://fgbc.dk/3gjt

 

 

 

 

Wholemeal Wheat Bread Using Liquid Yeast (100% lean whole wheat) (CLAS)

flours: whole wheat

recipe Foodgeekhttps://fgbc.dk/31df

rus brot YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNm-LJVk4Qc 

 

flours:  100% Whole Wheat flour (62% hydration)

reference350 Varieties of Bakery Products-1940, Plotnikov PM, Kolesnikov M.F. 

Bake from rusbrot YT:

 

 

 

The bake below done in Zojirushi Bread Machine: 2023-03-06 

-freshly milled whole wheat, rye mash; 73% hydration;

 

 -very  fragrant and flavorful, like Šventinė duona above

 

 

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 Wholemeal Wheat Bread with scald (100% lean whole wheat) (CLAS)

22-26Hours

flours: whole wheat

recipe Foodgeekhttps://fgbc.dk/3gjn

rus brot YT: here     

Method: scald, pre-ferment, autolysis; 

 

Bake from rusbrot YT:

 

 

 

 

 

CLAS Enriched Breads

Lemony Kugelhopf (based on recipe by Yippee) (CLAS)

flours: 97% AP flour; 3% rye from clas

recipe Foodgeekhttps://fgbc.dk/3337

TFL post: https://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/72134/lemony-kugelhof-clas

 (above oven bake: 2023-03-26)

 

 

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Chashu Bow Dough with clas

flours: 95% AP flour; 5% rye from clas

recipe Foodgeekhttps://fgbc.dk/36in

TFL post: https://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/72422/chashu-bow-dough-clas

 

  

Breadtopia's Purse Bread Dough  made with CLAS

flours: freshly ground whole white wheat berries and whole chickpeas

recipe Foodgeek: fgbc.dk/34fj

TFL post:  https://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/72228/zoji-sd-clasflas-breadtopias-purse-bread-dough

 (pan loaf baked in ZOJI; 2023-04-15)

 (flat bread cooked on cast iron and stovetop electric coils; 2023-04-17)

 

2  

 Marble Pita with Bamberg Chocolate Rye Malt (with clas)

 foodgeek recipehttps://fgbc.dk/37ki

 Make 2 lean doughs:

   -the darker one is colored by Bamberg Chocolate  Rye Malt

    (buy at hobby brewer shops) 

 The basic dough composition is as follows:

   88.7% whole wheat flour

   3.9% whole wheat malt 

   7.4% rye from clas

   80% hydration

   2% salt

   0.3% dry instant yeast

 

 2023-06-24 

 

  

  3

Brown Sweet Rice Mochi

flours: freshly ground whole sweet brown rice, whole rye from clas

recipe Foodgeekhttps://fgbc.dk/37cj 

TFL post: https://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/72489/clas-sweet-brown-rice-mochi

  

6-17-23

 

  4

 Blue Corn / Whole Wheat Tortilla

flours: blue corn masa harina (seca), freshly ground whole wheat flour, whole rye from clas

recipe Foodgeekhttps://fgbc.dk/37vt

TFL post: https://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/72556/clas-blue-cornwhole-wheat-tortillas

7-2-23

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

NOTES on CLAS

A)  by rusbrot  

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https://brotgost.blogspot.com/p/clas.html

 

a)     general formula for CLAS

b)    preservation and refreshment of CLAS

c)     CLAS baking:  Rye bread  contaning 80-100% rye, 20-00% wheat  with predough and dough fermentations with clas; also (50-75% rye,50-25%wheat), (30-40% rye,70-60%wheat)

d)    CLAS baking: Wheat breads

e)    CLAS in breads with scald and "old dough" in the fermentation

 

 

2

https://brotgost.blogspot.com/2018/11/3.html

 

a)    Choices of Sourdough

b)    Refreshing CLAS(KMKZ)

 

 

3

http://brotgost.blogspot.com/2016/11/blog-post.html

 

How to make Malt KMKZ (flas)

B)  by Mariana_AGA on Live Journal

 

Rye in a Bread Machine

Example: "sag" in Zojirushi baked 95% rye-

Thank you Mariana for the explanation!!

 

C) by Bread & Bread-Artisan Bread

  The ABCs of the home baker. Rye bread.

  Descriptions and pictures of many Russian breads.

  See sidebar for extensive list of breads.

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https://registrr-livejournal-com.translate.goog/tag/%D0%9A%D0%9C%D0%9A%D0%97?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

 

KMKZ -  technique.

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https://registrr-livejournal-com.translate.goog/94799.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

 Types of starters. Sourdough on thermophilic IBC. methodology.

 

 

D) by The Fresh Loaf 

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 Flourless Sourdough Starters

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comparing "clas" at 300% hydration (24h) and "flas/Malt KMKZ" (48h)

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 Naturally Soured Bread at 90F make flas at lower temp 32C/90F (38h) vs. 43C(48h)

 

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