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Hawaiian Style Portuguese Sweet Bread -The Real Deal-

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DanAyo

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A TFL user know as "Del" graciously offered this formula with instructions. As far as I know, Del’s original post is no longer on the forum.  Del lived in Hawaii near a bakery that was famous for this bread. His instructions are elaborate and very detailed, but if you follow his instructions you are certain to succeed. Please don't let the lengthy instructions dissuade you. You may have to improvise on one or more techniques. For example, I used the dough hook instead of the paddle for the final mix. IMO, the formula his formula is perfected. The bread is out of sight...

Below is a screen shot of the spreadsheet detailing the baker's percentages and weights in grams.

They make killer hamburger and hot dog buns.

    

Hawaiian Style Portuguese Sweet Bread
Instructions copied from Del

1. Yeast - You will need to get osmotolerant yeast. I use SAF-Instant in the Gold Package.

2. You will need plastic bags for these loaves after they finish cooling. It is really important to bag your loaves to prevent drying out the bread. (Hydration pre-baked is around 67 %.)

3. The weights given will make three loaves of 20oz. (569 grams) each pre-baked. This comes out to around 1 lb. baked per loaf. The whole process takes 3 1/2 hours start till eating.

4. KitchenAid (KA) Mixer speeds are given as actual speeds --- like the first speed is when it comes on, and the second speed is what follows etc. I don't use the KA's speed numbers printed on the mixer because they don't make sense to me. There are eight "real" speeds on my KA mixer. It was difficult to mix in my KitchenAid. I plan to use an Ankarsrum next time. Ankarsrum worked very well. The KA worked but it labored too much for me.


1 egg (optional for egg wash) set out on counter to come to room temperature

113 grams Unsalted Butter (15%)

210 grams White Sugar (28%) 


If you want to egg wash, then leave an egg out on the counter for later on.


In your mixer bowl, cream the butter and sugar together with a paddle attachment at the 3rd KA speed until about doubled in volume. I just keep my mixer running constantly while I proceed thru this recipe. Also I am lazy and just take my bulk butter out of the refrig and plunk it in the mixer chopped up and ice cold. The mixer bowl will start to sweat on the outside (condensation) but this won't harm anything. If you decide to warm up your refrigerated cold butter, the butter must be bendable (yes BENDABLE like clay) in order to cream with sugar correctly. If your butter is soft then it simply won't cream right. Using it straight out of the refrig insures things go right as the butter warms up while creaming with sugar. The Ankarsrum didn’t cream well with the roller and scraper, so I’m using the whisk now.


285 grams BOILING water (38%) I boil more water than needed then measure the use that amount or pre-boiled

38 grams Instant Dry Milk (5%)

38 grams Instant Mash Potato Flakes (5%)


In a small sauce pan, boil the water. Once it is rolling boiling, add in the dry milk and whisk. THEN remove from heat and whisk in the instant mash potato flakes till everything is nicely blended.


218 grams Whole Eggs, Ice Cold straight from refrigerator (29%) - about 4 or 5 medium eggs

10 grams Vanilla Extract (1.3%) or 2 Teaspoon

5 grams total Lemon/Orange Extract (0.6%) Optional but then again so is Caviar in Life...

(The extracts come out to 2 teaspoon of Lemon only, or 1 teaspoon each of Lemon/Orange extract, or 2 teaspoon of Orange only --whatever you got available)


Hand whisk the ice cold eggs into the hot potato/milk mixture. The coldness of the eggs should bring down the temperature of the mixture to a safe level for your yeast additions later on. No need to temper eggs. Whisk in the extracts. Set aside. You can also wish in the creamed sugar at this time.

 

300 grams BREAD flour (40%)

15 grams Osmotolerant Yeast like SAF GOLD (2%) --this is around 1 ½ Teaspoon of yeast


Stop your mixer that is running creaming the butter and sugar. By this time, it should have doubled in volume and be almost pure white in color. Tare and then add in your flour and then put the SAF GOLD yeast on top. Using the same paddle attachment, mix at a lower 2nd KA speed till well blended. Now, while the mixer is still on, add in the now lukewarm (if it's not, then wait for it to cool down some) mixture from your saucepan (milk/potato/egg/extract mix) all at once into the mixer bowl. It will all be extremely soupy. Slowly increase the speed of the KA mixer to the highest speed that will not splatter the soupy mixture out of the bowl. You will be slowly increasing the speed as you see the gluten developing. Overall mixing time is 5 minutes. When I do it, I can almost get to the 8th KA speed by the time 5 minutes is up.


This is my lazy man's "sponge" method. Again, your gluten development will allow you to increase the speed of the KA mixer higher and higher and this is so important!


450 grams BREAD flour (60%)

7 grams Nutmeg, finely ground (1%) Optional. Comes out to 1 Tablespoon. Or just skip adding nutmeg altogether.)


Place the flour and optional finely ground nutmeg on top of your lazy man's sponge you just created. Now using the detached paddle attachment that you have in your hand, work this flour into the soupy mixture completely. If you don't do this then you risk splattering flour all over your kitchen when you first turn on the mixer! Place paddle attachment back on mixer and then knead for 5 minutes at the 3th KA speed. Yes, use a paddle attachment, not the kneading hook at this point (faster). NOTE; I now use an Ankarsrum to mix and it does fine with scraper & roller.

 

7 grams salt non-ionized (1%) --about 1 Tablespoon


Odd as it sounds, NOW ADD THE SALT on top of the dough. Scrape down the sides of the mixer bowl and off the paddle with a spatula. Replace paddle with a dough hook and knead for 5 minutes at a slower 2nd KA speed


Place the dough in a large plastic bowl and use your hands to briefly knead into a nice ball (boule) in the bowl. If you've done everything right, the dough WILL NOT STICK to the plastic bowl at all.


Cover and let rest for 1 hour in a warm place till about doubled in size. Then divide into 3 equal sizes of around 19 ounces each (540 grams) or (makes great rolls or buns @ 2 oz. each and hoagies @ 3.5 oz or 100g) and then pre-shape into loose balls. Bench rest for 20 minutes.


Preheat oven to 350 degree F. (177 degree C.) And setup steam at this time


Final shape into taut balls/boules and place each into an oil sprayed 9 inch pie pan tin. Cover each with an overturned large plastic bowl for about one hour (check at 40 minutes dough may over proof) until dough is just touching the sides of the 9 inch pie pan (dough may be more than doubled in size at this point).


Optional Step:

Take your room temperature egg and whisk completely. Egg wash the tops of the balls/boules being extremely careful not to let any egg wash drip into the pie pan itself as this will bake into a hard unappetizing mess. I use my hands to do the egg wash. Again do not drip any egg wash into the pie pan!


Once oven is heated correctly and the dough is just touching all sides of its 9 inch pie pan, place the pans on the upper rack in your oven (baking on lower racks may burn the bottoms). I’ve been baking at 335° convection for 38 minutes culminating with a bread temperature of 190°. I also used the middle rack.  Do not dry out by over cooking. You are looking for a graduated colored crust with dark brown at the top and lightening to almost a pale yellow near the bottom of the loaf next to the pie pan. This graduated coloring has good eye appeal and also insures that the bread itself is not over baked. Because of the high sugar content watch the bread for over browning.


Cool in pie pans for at least 45 minutes then remove round loaf from pie pan. Immediately place in a plastic bag and seal lightly. I just turn under my overly long bag beneath my loaf. If you notice excessive condensation inside the bag, simply open up the bag until it evaporates then reseal immediately.


It is important that you don't let the loaves just sit out. You need to bag the breads to insure a pillow softness texture to the breads that Hawaiian Style Portuguese Sweet Bread is known for. After ripping off a piece of bread (really best way to eat it), replace loaf back in bag and seal to retain moisture and freshness.


You will be amazed at how these loaves turn out. Only use SAF GOLD yeast. Bag the cooled bread.

Ingredients

1 egg (optional for egg wash)
113 grams Unsalted Butter (15%)
210 grams White Sugar (28%)
285 grams BOILING water (38%)
38 grams Instant Dry Milk (5%)
38 grams Instant Mash Potato Flakes (5%)
218 grams Whole Eggs, Ice Cold straight from Refrig (29%) Approximately 4 – 5 medium eggs
10 grams Vanilla Extract (1.3%) or 1 Teaspoon
5 grams Lemon extract (.66%) or 1/2 Teaspoon
5 grams Orange extract (.66%) or 1/2 Teaspoon
300 grams BREAD flour (40%)
16 grams Osmotolerant Yeast like SAF GOLD (2%) --this is around 2 Tablespoon of yeast
450 grams BREAD flour (60%)
7 grams Nutmeg, finely ground (1%) Optional, comes out to 1 Teaspoon
8 grams salt non-ionized (1%) --equals 1.41 Teaspoon

 

Baker’s Percentages

Unsalted Butter                                      15     %
White Sugar                              28      %
BOILING water                           38      %
Instant Dry Milk                           5      %
Instant Mash Potato Flakes          5      %
Whole Eggs                              29      %
Vanilla Extract                             1.3   %
Lemon extract                               .66 %
Lemon extract                              .66 %
BREAD flour                             40      %
SAF GOLD                                 2      %
BREAD flour                             60      %
Nutmeg                                      1      %
salt non-ionized                           1      %
                Total Percentage = 226.62%

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Ru007

Seeded SD and another (mostly) white SD

 

So, you know when your choices are 1) wake up super early to get your loaves in the oven and have fresh bread or 2) don’t bother baking because your day is really busy and go without the bread… Clearly, the right answer is to wake up and bake. Am I right? Well anyway, that’s what happened to me this weekend and here is the consequence of my choice.

 

One (mostly) white SD

...and one seeded SD loaf


 

The white loaf is the pretty much the same as my previous post except I upped the hydration a tiny bit from 76% to just shy of 79% and dropped the prefermented flour % from 12% to 11% (yes, 1% is important to me!! LOL!!)

 

This loaf has become my little project and I must say, I prefer the result I got this time. The crumb is noticeably softer and melty in mouth. Yum… I let this one have a much longer shaped proof (3.5 hours instead of 1.25hours) and retarded it for 8 hours instead of 14hours.

I'm happy with the oven spring on this one,

Crumb shot...

 

 

Still playing with my scoring :)

 

The next loaf was a seeded loaf… nothing fancy, just a mix of white and black sesame seeds and linseeds. I’ve made a seeded SD loaf before and I really enjoyed it but I thought that the seeds sucked a lot of moisture out of my dough. So this time I toasted the seeds and soaked them in boiling water overnight before putting them in the dough. I put just enough water so that it would all be absorbed, I didn’t want extra water to end up in my dough.

 

Here is the formula and method:

 

 

 

 

Weight (g)

Final dough

%

 

Levain (80% hydration)

90

 

 

 

Water

296

336

80%

 

 

 

 

 

 

Flour

370

420

100%

 

Unbleached white bread flour

330

330

79%

 

Whole wheat flour

 40

80

19%

 

Rye flour

 

10

2%

 

 

 

 

 

 
 

Salt

9

9

2%

 

 

 

 

 

 

Seeds

80

80

20%

 

Sesame seeds (black)

15

15

4%

 

Sesame seeds (white)

40

40

10%

 

Linseeds

25

25

6%

 

 

 

 

 

 

Total dough weight

845

845

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1. 1 stage 12 hour levain build. 20 g NMNF rye starter plus 45g whole wheat flour and 36g water.

 

2. “Pre mix” the flour and water for the dough the night before mixing, chill in the fridge for a few hours and leave to come to room temperature overnight.

 

Toast the seeds and soak in 55g of boiling water.

 

3. Add the salt, levain and seeds to the dough and mix.

 

I spent about 50 mins mixing the dough initially (about 2 -3 mins on, 10 mins rest x 4) and then did 3 set of stretch and folds, not quite hourly but they were done within the first 3.5 hours of the bulk fermentation. Then another 5 hours bulk fermentation (yes, things were slow because its cold here)

 

4. Pre shape and let the dough rest for 30mins.

 

5. Shape and let the dough sit in the basket for 3.5hours before refrigerating for 8 hours.

 

6. Baked at 250 dC for 20mins with steam and then at 230 dC for another 25mins.

 

Result:

 

 

 

Slicing this loaf was amazing! The aroma of the seeds was just so good…I was worried that I didn't have enough seeds in the dough, but I think I got just the right amount.

Soaking the seeds was a good idea, the crumb is nice a moist because the seeds didn’t steal as much water from the rest of the dough.

I hope everyone has a great week! Happy baking friends :)

Ru

 

 

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sadkitchenkid

Chestnut, Raisin, Walnut Sourdough with Whole Wheat, Espresso, and Cocoa

The title is a mouthful I know. 

But wow this bread might be my new favorite.

I made a video showing how I made these loaves. It's pretty straight to the point, if anyone is interested in watching. Don't mind my pajamas lol.  

if not, pictures coming right up:

This bread came out so dark and rich....wow. Yes, new favorite for sure.

 

Happy baking!

Sourdough Bread_15% Whole Wheat Tartine Bread

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mukgling

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Wild Yeast Starter Leaven(Levain)
15% Whole Wheat Tartine Bread
Natural Fermentation Bread, home baking

집에서 사워도우 빵 만들기_천연발효 스타터 르뱅(르방)_통밀15% 타르틴브레드 천연발효빵 자연발효빵_홈베이킹










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** Video subtitles can be set in two languages: Korean and English **
** You can set subtitles on screen **

How to make Sourdough Bread
Wild Yeast Starter Leaven(Levain)
15% Whole Wheat Tartine Bread
Natural Fermentation Bread
home baking

Bread Making
Home baking

How to make a Sourdough Starter
How to Make Sourdough Bread (like a Tartine Bread)
How to make a Country Bread
home baking, homemade
Lodge Combo Cooker (Lodge Pan) Lodge

Tartine Bread Book Note


** Making starter(natural fermentation) **

Making Starter Day 1
20g (whole wheat flour 10g + all purpose flour 10g)
20g water (34℃)
Mix evenly as above formula.
Actual completion temperature: 34 ℃ (24 ℃ ~ 27 ℃ is appropriate)
Leave it for 24 hours.
(Allow air to pass through)

Making Starter Day 2
40g 1day dough
(I have opened the lid for a long time so the first dough surface is dry.)
40g (whole wheat flour 20g + all purpose flour 20g)
40 g water (31℃)
Mix evenly as above formula.
Actual completion temperature: 29 ℃ (24 ℃ ~ 27 ℃ is appropriate)
Leave it for 24 hours.
(Allow air to pass through)

Making Starter Day 32
40g 2day dough (Double expansion of the dough volume)
40g (whole wheat flour 20g + all purpose flour 20g)
40 g water (33℃)
Mix evenly as above formula.
Actual completion temperature: 27.9 ℃ (24 ℃ ~ 27 ℃ is appropriate)
Leave it for 24 hours.
(Allow air to pass through)

When you smell starter dough
Until the smell of alcohol and carbon dioxide(CO2) is felt well
Repeat the above procedure.
It usually seems to be completed in 4 ~ 5 days.


** Making Leaven(Levain)(pre-fermented dough) **
120g starter (well fermented state)
120g (whole wheat flour 60g + all purpose flour 60g)
108 g of water (90% of the amount of flour, 26℃)
Mix evenly as above formula
Actual completion temperature: 27.8 ℃ (24 ℃ ~ 27 ℃ is appropriate)
Ferment until two times more swollen.


** Making dough **
(B's (%) = Baker's Percentage = Bakers Percent)
(Tr (g) = actual input amount = Truth Input)

Dough formula, 1 loaf(dough weight: 800 g)
B's (%): 77%, Tr (g): 305 g Water
(285g of water before salt injection + 20g of water after salt injection)
B's (%): 23%, Tr (g): 91g Leaven(Levain)
B's (%): 45%, Tr (g): 178 g Strong flour
B's (%): 40%, Tr (g): 158 g All purpose flour
B's (%): 15%, Tr (g): 59g Whole wheat flour
B's (%): 2%, Tr (g): 8g Salt


Process
1. Put 285g of water (26 ℃) into the bowl.
2. Put the Leaven(Levain) and Mix evenly.
3. Add flour and mix by hand until no flour is visible.
4. 30 minutes of rest at room temperature(autolyze)
5. Add 20g of salt and the remaining water and mix evenly by hand.
6. After 30 minutes of rest, the first fold (folding)
7. After 30 minutes of rest, the second fold (folding)
8. After 30 minutes of rest, the third fold (folding)
9. After 30 minutes of rest, the fourth fold (folding)
10. Rest for 30 ~ 40 minutes
11. Fold the dough lightly and round it
12. Rest at room temperature for 30 minutes
13. Fold the dough lightly and round it, then panning dough in Banneton
15. Second fermentation: refrigerator 5 ℃ low temperature fermentation (15 ~ 16 hours)
16. Preheat oven and lodge 10-inch combo cooker
    The oven temperature is raised as high as possible,
    (The maximum temperature of my oven is 250 ℃)
    Preheat oven to 10 inches in a combo cooker for more than 20 minutes preheating
    (Lodge LCC3 Cast Iron Combo Cooker, Pre Seasoned, 3.2-Quart)
17. Remove the second fermented dough from the Banneton(de-panning).
18. Put the dough into the preheated lodge 10-inch combo cooker floor
19. Scoring on top of dough
20. Cover the lodge 10-inch combo cooker lid.
21. Put in the oven
22. After baking for 25 minutes, remove the lodge lid(cover) and continue baking for 25 minutes
    (At this time, lower the temperature to 220 ~ 230 ℃ and bake.)
23. Remove the bread from the oven and cool
24. Tasting after completion of bread

Test results
1. The volume expansion of dough due to natural fermentation is low compared with the Commercial yeast dough.
   However, Lots of volume expansion after baking (strong oven spring)
2. Compared with the Commercial yeast country bread,
   There is moisture, there is a difference in texture
3. Sour and unique flavor compared to the Commercial yeast country bread

* Note: Always be careful when using oven, lodge combo cooker
(It is very hot, so use it after wearing very thick oven gloves)

The Kentucky Housewife - Potato Rolls (adapted for sourdough)

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donaldG

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Recently was scrolling through the pages of the very old cookbook The Kentucky Housewife and decided to give a go at the potato rolls. After playing around with the recipe and making some tweaks to my method I have a recipe that I think is worth posting! Here are a few pictures from the process, too.

 

The levain build. I was skeptical of how the potato mash would fair overnight but it was beautiful!

Potato starter

 

 

baked rolls

crumb

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Sourcehttps://archive.org/stream/kentuckyhousewif00whit#page/14/mode/2up
Prep time13 hours
Cooking time35 minutes
Total time13 hours, 35 minutes

Ingredients

200 g
boiled potato (any kind) (boiled whole, skin on)
100 ml
liquid left from boiling potatoes
10 g
starter
20 g
flour
10 ml
oil (any kind will do really)
100 g
85% extraction wheat flour
100 ml
water (divided in half)
8 g
salt

Instructions

  1. Boil the potatoes whole, then peel after. Reserve the boiling liquid. (Blanching the potatoes in ice water after boiling makes quick work of the skins and waiting for the potatoes to cool.)
  2. Mash the potatoes, 20g of flour, 10g of oil and 100g of potato liquid together into a thin mush.
  3. When this is cooled to body temperature add the 10g of starter and mix well. Let sit overnight, 9-12 hours.
  4. The next morning add the 500g flour, 50ml of the 100ml water, mix until no dry bits of flour left. Rest for 20 minutes.
  5. Dissolve the 8g of salt in the remaining 50ml of water. Add to the dough, begin kneading. It’s going to fall apart at first, don’t worry, keep going. After it comes back together and you can make a cohesive, semi-sticky ball cover it with a damp cloth and let it sit for an hour.
  6. Divide into 8 balls about 115g each. Roll into balls with the palm of your hand on a non-floured surface. 
  7. Let rest for at least 3 hours in a covered (I used a large plastic bag) cast iron pan dusted with rice flour.
  8. The last 30 minutes of the rest preheat your oven to 450º.
  9. Cook in a double cast iron cooker if you can, but you’ll be fine if not. (That means use a deeper cast iron pan on top that you’ve allowed to preheat in the oven. You'll remove the lid halfway through cooking.)
  10. Score if you wish, though when they’re lined in the cast iron dish it can be tedious. In retrospect I'd score sooner, maybe before setting in the pan.
  11. Bake @ 450 for 17 minutes with the double cooker lid on then 17 minutes without it.*
  12. *Alternatively you can just lay these out on a sheet pan with parchment paper dusted with rice flour. Then bake them for approximately 30-35 minutes depending on how dark you like the bake to be.
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the_partisan

Bulk Fermentation - When is it "done"?

How can you tell when bulk fermentation is done? I haven't been able to find anything conclusive regarding this. Most recipes give a time window, but I have no idea what this is based off. How much the dough has risen seems to be a measuring point, but then again I believe this depends on how often you fold? What is the end goal for bulk fermentation phase?

Ken Forkish for example says "dough has tripled", but I've seen some recipes where only 20-30% rise is expected.

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alfanso

Vermont SD, as baguettes of course

For as long as I've been an attendee at TFL University I continually see postings galore for both the Vermont SD and the Norwich SD.  Which, in an odd way, had me keep my distance from them both.  Until today.  Mr. Hamelman's Vermont SD is the first, foundational entry in his book's entire section of levain based breads, preceding even the venerable Pain au Levain entries.  I'd skipped over it before.  

But I had an urge to get back to building one of his ubiquitous 125% hydration bread flour levains after my romance, still underway, with my bastardized rye version of the same.  So now what to bake, what to bake?  Well, here I am.  As with other breads that I wish to make into baguettes, I did some diligent searching for evidence of this being made before as baguettes.  This time there were a very few instances where someone in the distant past did so (drat!).  I was on board anyway.  Stubby baguettes are my thang, if you haven't yet figured that out.

This is a 90% bread flour, 10% rye flour dough with a 125% hydration bread flour levain.  Clocking in at 65% overall hydration it leans toward the more rubbery side of things during the French Folds.  15% of the flour is in the levain.  Next time out I'll give these loaves another shade of dark before venting them.

375 x 4 baguettes.

and the crumb:

Here is the formula at 1000g, and the way that I do it:

Vermont Sourdough        
Jeffrey Hamelman        
          
     Total Flour    
 Total Dough Weight (g) 1000 Prefermented15.00%   
 Total Formula   Levain  Final Dough 
 Ingredients%Grams %Grams IngredientsGrams
 Total Flour100.00%599.2 100.00%89.9 Final Flour509.3
 Bread Flour90.00%539.2 100.00%89.9 Bread Flour449.4
 Rye10.00%59.9 0.00%0.0 Rye59.9
 Water65.00%389.5 125%112.3 Water277.1
 Salt1.90%11.4    Salt11.4
 Starter3.00%18.0 20%18.0   
        Levain202.2
 Totals166.90%1000.0 245%220.2  1000.0
          
     2 stage liquid levain build 
     Stage 1    
     Bread Flour44.9   
     Rye0.0   
     Water56.2   
     Starter18.0   
     Stage 2    
     Bread Flour44.9   
     Rye0.0   
     Water56.2   
     Total220.2   

This dough is very workable at the shaping stage.

  1. 2 stage build of the levain.  It will hardly grow and will only display frothy bubbles to indicate ripeness.  Depending on ambient temp each build can take from 6-12 hours.  I refrigerate mine if I'm not ready to start a mix.
  2. levain, flour & water to "autolyse" for ~30 minutes.
  3. Add salt and incorporate.
  4. I hand mix "everything" so: 150 French Folds, a 5 minute rest, another 150 French Folds.  Dough into oiled container and covered.  Dough will be rubbery during FFs and break apart and then come together several times.  This is normal with a drier hydration on some doughs.
  5. Approx. 2 hour bulk rise.  Letter Folds at ~minutes 50 & 100.  Cover and retard for a total of at least 12 and up to ~18 hours.
  6. At some point after 1-2 hours or more, divide, pre-shape, rest 10 minutes, final shape, onto barely floured couche.  Cover couche with plastic bags.  Back into retard.
  7. Oven set to 480dF an hour before bake time
  8. Sylvia's Steaming Towel into oven 15 minutes prior to bake.
  9. Score and load dough into oven.  2 cups near boiling water onto lava rocks in pan after loading.
  10. Oven down to 460dF.
  11. ~13 minutes with steam.  Then release, rotate loaves and continue baking until ~205dF internally.
  12. Vent loaves with oven door cracked for 2-3 minutes.

Caveats & notes:

  • My kitchen remains at ~78dF at all times, as most are cooler, then a little more bulk rise time is suggested.
  • I don't temp the water, the dough, the finished loaves.  
  • For the bulk rise I don't watch the dough, I watch the clock (gasp!).  I know how dough performs in my environment.
  • I do hand mix using French Folds (pinch and folds in the bowl for initial incorporation).
  • I do use a couche instead of banneton and it rests on a jellyroll pan.  
  • The LFs are on the wetted bench with wet hands - no raw flour is ever employed at this stage.
  • Bake directly from retard. 
  • My lava rock pan permanently resides on the lowest rack in the oven.
  • I bake on a granite slab which sits on the rack just above the steam engines.
  • Parchment paper facilitates the transfer from oven peel to baking deck. 
  • If the levain is from the refrigerator I add it to very warm water.  The levain warms up, the water cools down and a happy medium is reached.

Darth Baker

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At last... a Pane di Altamura breakthrough

500g durum flour

330g warm water

12.5g salt

100g starter @ 66% hydration

 

Convert your starter by taking off a little and feeding it durum flour + 66% water. After a few feeds continue onto the following final feed...

12g starter + 40g warm water + 60g durum flour

Allow to mature for 12-14 hours then continue onto the recipe. 

 

1. Autolyse 500g durum flour + 330g warm water for one hour. 

2. Add 100g starter and fold a few times then sprinkle 12.5g salt over the dough then squeeze and fold till fully incorporated. Done this way to keep them separate. Rest for 10 minutes.

3. Knead the dough for 20 minutes till gluten is fully formed and the dough is silky smooth. 

4. Bulk Ferment at room temperature for about 4 hours (until doubled)

5. Pre-shape into a round and bench rest for 30 minutes. 

6. Pre-heat the oven to 230C.

7. Final Shape and bench rest for 15 min. 

8. Bake until hard dark crust forms. About 30-40 minutes. 

9. Leave to cool. 

10. Enjoy! 

 

Best tasting one yet. Lots of flavour. 

 

IMPORTANT EDIT: while i did get a lovely bread i was following the DOP to some extent. For the bulk ferment i did find room for my own interpretation as the DOP specifies "atleast" 90min, hence the 4 hours i did. But the shaping and final proofing seemed very specific. Gaetano has just informed me that this should be non specific too. Please see his comment below... http://www.thefreshloaf.com/comment/377611#comment-377611

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A long time coming, but finally success! A Naan I can be proud of.

One of my earliest food memories is of eating a delicious, buttery Naan, al fresco on the patio, somewhere in an outdoor cafe in an Indian city, probably Mahabaleshwar or one of the stops on the way there from Pune, when I was just 8 years old. I can still taste it today. My senses were enchanted by this unexpected delight, both familiar and yet different to the breads of my American youth. The fact that I had been traumatized by countless watery and bland dals, lowering my expectations for Indian food considerably, does not undermine the fact that I knew right away that Naan was one of the great breads of the world. (Obviously I love Indian food now, but my early exposure to said cuisine was in the hands of those with more enthusiasm than skill!)

 
Flash forward to 2004 and I have my first go of making it myself. Well... let's just say there was considerable room for improvement. It wasn't Naan, but it wasn't bad and it didn't stop me from trying again. In fact, I continued to make it over and over throughout the years. I tried new recipes, methods of cooking, etc, but I never quite got there. The taste was almost always good, but the texture was wrong or the crust was too tough or it was too dry. But hey, garlic butter sure does cover a lot of evils in the food world!
 
Finally, a few months ago I spent a lot of time researching a new recipe. In the spirit of Alan Turing, I was determined to crack the code. I found a blog from a lady that had tested many different recipes from famous Indian chefs and had compiled her own as an amalgam of sorts. I was pretty excited and felt I had done my homework and understood the science, so I got the recipe and made it. It was really good, the best I had made, and we were all very happy, but it still wasn't Naan. And this was not me being a perfectionist; there was clearly a key component missing which I had yet to discover. I was flummoxed and feeling a bit exasperated. I didn't know what else I could do as I had tried just about everything.
 
But after lifting my chin back up, I decided to persist. YouTube was my source this time. I eventually stumbled upon a presentation from a kind looking lady in her home kitchen. I don't know what caught my interest, but it sure wasn't the production values or precise recipe control. Nevertheless, I continued to watch the entire 13 minutes. I was intrigued because her recipe and process were so radically different from anything I had ever read about or seen for Naan (or any kind of bread for that matter). I thought to myself: What have I got to lose? Nothing else has worked so why not give it a go. 
 
Curry was the dinner choice a few nights ago so I finally had an opportunity to try it out. I struggled a bit throughout the process due to unfamiliarity of technique, not having all the right ingredients and just general first time recipe jitters. The results were still a way off, but there was finally a bit of light at the end of the tunnel. For the first time, there was real hope. Could this radical approach really be it? I knew I had to change a few things but I felt the fundamentals were sound. I took notes and looked forward to the next attempt.
 
Curry was again on the menu tonight, so obviously Naan was called for. I cultivated a positive vibration, implemented my changes and just generally expected good things to happen. And sure enough: I finally, FINALLY, FINALLY did it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I realise that I forgot to take a picture of the 'crumb' (Naan doesn't really have one, does it?). But trust me, it was very, very good. There was a hint of sweetness balanced by the tang of yogurt and a richness from the melted butter in the dough (and on top, of course!) with just a bit of a salty bite. It took on just the right colour and puffed up beautifully just like at the Indian takeaways, but didn't split in half and hollow out like pita bread as many previous attempts had. And most of all, the texture was just right. The one thing that always stood out as the glaring flaw to me on my previous attempts was a tough, dry crust and bit of a jaw workout throughout the eating process. This one had a wonderful chew with just the right amount of resistance (al dente if you will) but was still soft and pliable. 
 
Now the lack of an actual Tandoor will always present a challenge. You can see that the bubbles have been flattened on top. This is because the best home solution I have available now is cooking it on the stovetop in a cast iron skillet, and flipping it over flattens them a bit. I've already thought of an upgrade on this process (placing under a grill at the end instead of flipping) which will improve it somewhat, but the effect on the crust and texture will never be fully overcome with iron. I need clay or stone, so I need to either get a Tandoor or find some serious hacks for my pizza stone to achieve the next level. Any suggestions are welcome. But for now, I am very pleased. This is maybe the most satisfying bread I have ever made.

Recipe as follows. I must give credit to the original, which you can find here at Bhavna's Kitchen. I have made several significant changes but it's more or less the same.

 

Naan

Makes 6 portions @ ~ 110g each.


  • 75g tepid water

  • 15g sugar

  • 4g instant or active dry yeast


Mix all in a bowl of stand mixer, set aside to activate in warm place. (I have been doing this even for instant yeast, in large part because that was what the original recipe called for. I don't feel naan gets its flavour from slow fermentation and I also feel that part of what makes this recipe so good is that you are trying not to develop too much gluten, so working quickly and getting that yeast kicked into high gear is an advantage for this bread, IMHO).


  • 45g melted butter or ghee, cooled slightly

  • 225g plain yogurt, medium thickness, room temperature


Once yeast is bubbling, and to bowl and bring together briefly with paddle attachment. (You can absolutely do this recipe by hand like the original, but I like the ease of using my mixer and I wanted to experiment with the differences. I will probably try it by hand again a few times to find if one is better or simply more fun than the other).


  • 300g all-purpose flour

  • 4g salt


Mix together in a separate bowl. Continuing with paddle, with mixer running at low speed, add dry mix a spoonful at a time until all has been added. Turn speed up to 3 or 4 and continue to mix for ~ 2 minutes. The mix will continue to look more like a batter than a dough, but you will see some minor gluten development. This is correct and be careful not to over mix.


Bulk ferment in warm place for ~ 45 minutes but up to an hour. The dough should just barely double in size or not quite. 


Using a large metal spoon for ease of use, spoon out ~ 110g portions onto a floured surface. Being liberal with flour as needed, gently shape into oval/triangle/teardrop shape with hands, like forming a pizza. Place immediately into a cast iron skillet over medium to medium-high heat. Cook for ~ 2 minutes then place under a hot grill for ~ 1 minute to crisp up the top.


Brush and sprinkle with:


  • Melted butter, as needed

  • Garlic, minced, as needed

  • Coriander or parsley, as needed

  • Kalonji (nigella) seeds, as needed

  • Flaky sea salt, as needed

Note: I assume this has a hydration of 100%, if we assume that yogurt is essentially milk and therefore essentially water. If anyone has better info on how to calculate hydration with yogurt, please let me know and I will update the recipe. It is this very high hydration which I feel is the key to this recipe. All others I had tried in the past maxed out at about 75-80%. Another area that I may play with is keeping everything the same but going for more gluten with either a longer knead or longer fermentation. However, this is one of those rare cases where I don't think it will benefit, and may even hinder the texture. The dough is very easy to tear when shaping, but I have seen this as a common concurrence with the professionals so there has to be a reason. Someone with more knowledge than me can hopefully contribute to more understanding in this area.

 

 

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Rye sourdough

Here is my favourite rye sourdough with a few variations. When I am not trying out other recipes I bake two loaves every week for my family who won't have it any other way. The loaves can easily be stored for up to 10 days before they get too dry and hard, and I think that they improve in both taste and texture for the first 2-4 days. 

Top the slices with cheese, salami, ham, cucumber slices, boiled eggs and mayonaise, smoked fish, paté, or whatever you fancy.

Day 1, evening

Soaker

  • 150g whole rye flour
  • 50g whole wheat flour (rye will also do)
  • 175g cracked rye
  • 75g pumpkin seeds or sunflower seeds
  • 15g toasted rye malt (not enzyme active)
  • 350g water

Mix the ingredients and leave the soaker at room temperature in a closed container.

Starter

  • 120g whole rye flour
  • 100g mature starter
  • 200g water

Mix the ingredients and leave the starter at room temperature in a closed container (with a loose lid).

Day 2, late afternoon

Dough

  • All of the soaker
  • 10g salt
  • 200g starter

Mix the ingredients until the dough is homogenous. This normally takes about 1 minute using a spoon.

Refrigerate the remaining starter.

Transfer the dough to a greased loaf pan (use butter) and smooth the surface with a wet tool (e.g. your hand).

Cover the loaf pan with aluminum foil or a lid.

Proofing

Proof the dough at room temperature until small holes appear on the surface and it has expanded to about 150% of the original volume. It normally takes 4-5 hours.

Baking

Bake at 200C with foil/lid for 45 minutes.

Remove the foil/lid, insert a thermometer, and bake until the center temperature is 98C (about 15 minutes).

Cooling

Carefully remove the loaf from the loaf pan and place it on a cooling rack with the loaf pan over it as a lid for 1 hour. This will prevent evaporation.

After 1 hour remove the loaf pan and let the loaf dry for about 15 minutes before wrapping it in wax paper. 

Leave the loaf alone for at least 24 hours before slicing it.

Variations and comments

For the wheat component I prefer purple wheat because of its beautiful color.

I have experimented with replacing the cracked rye with sprouted rye. It works very well but the sprouts should not be part of the soaker because the enzymes that are released will break down the starch of the flour. Also, the amount of water absorbed by the dry grain prior to sprouting should be subtracted from water that is added to the soaker.

I normally use a combination of dry toasted and wet toasted rye malt. Here is how to make it: http://howtobrew.com/book/section-4/experiment/toasting-your-own-malt

The recipe above gives an excess of starter. This is on purpose because I use it to create starters for wheat doughs as well. It is the only culture that I continuously keep alive.

Other seeds or combinations of seeds can be used. I sometimes add yellow flax seeds.

The greased pan and top of the dough can be covered with soaked rye flakes or sunflower seeds before baking.

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