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Floydm

Maple Oatmeal Bread

We tried this one this week. It was very good, and made incredible toast.

Maple Oatmeal Bread

Makes 2 loaves

2 1/2 cups boiling water
1 cup rolled oats
1 package dry yeast
3/4 cup maple syrup
2 teaspoons salt
1 tablespoon oil
5 cups flour

Put the oats into a bowl. Pour the boiling water over the oats and set aside for an hour.

Mix the yeast, syrup, salt, and oil into the oats. Mix in 3 cups of the flour. Cover the bowl and let rise for an hour.

Add more flour, 1/2 cup at a time, until the dough is the correct consistency. Knead for 10 minutes. Cut the dough into two pieces, then shape it into loaves and place in greased loaf pans. Cover and let rise another 45 minutes.

Bake at 350 for 40 - 50 minutes.

This recipe originates in Bernard Clayton's New Complete Book of Breads.

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Breadzik

Lost recipies in Hamelman's "Bread"

Hi!

Does anyone know which recipes didn't make it from the first to the second edition of Hamelman's "Bread"? I don't seem to be able to find that information anywhere. I think I read that somewhere but for the life of me can't find it.

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Tom M

Salt in sourdough cultures

Sometimes people here on The Fresh Loaf have wanted to favor yeast growth/activity in their sourdough cultures.   A particular scientific study of the effects of process conditions such as temperature and salt concentrations on lactic acid bacteria and yeast has been discussed numerous times in this context and others.  Gänzle’s 1998 publication reported on studies of two strains of Lactobacillus sanfranciscensis and one strain of Candida milleri yeast, each in isolation.  These were in grain-free liquid culture.  4% NaCl inhibited the growth of the Lactobacilli, while the yeast was more tolerant at that concentration and up to 8% NaCl.  These findings have been of interest to some here. 

Can it be extrapolated to actual dough, particularly diverse sourdough cultures, and lactic acid bacteria (LAB) or yeast strains besides these three?  Gänzle’s 2004 follow-up study (with Brandt and Hammes) on a combination of LAB and yeast in rye sourdough was largely consistent with their earlier data from varying salt concentration.

What I think may have escaped notice here is that 4% and 8% salt values are "w/vol" solution percentages (aka solution = solute/solvent = g/100ml = g/100g water), NOT baker's percentages.

The conversion factor from % solution to baker’s percentage is the hydration.  A 4% solution is 4 x .75 = 3 in baker’s%.  To convert the other way is the inverse: 2% salt (baker’s %) at 75% hyd is 2 / .75 = a 2.67% solution.

In practical terms, to reach the lactobacillus growth-inhibitory 4% solution, one needs 3% salt at 75% hydration or only 2% salt at 50% hydration.   So a typical 2% salt in the total dough at 80% hydration is already a 2.5% solution.

For the visually inclined, I made this table of NaCl solution percentages at a given Baker’s percentage and hydration level.  [color code 0-3.9, 4-7.9, and 8+ ranges]



As I posted elsewhere, I've been salting my starters for about a month now and haven't seen much of an effect on the speed to maturity, though this process has seemed to have improved the flavor of my sourdough breads since then.  In their chapter in "Handbook on Sourdough Biotechnology," 2013, Gänzle and Gobbetti point out two other strains of lactobacilli that have been found to grow at up to 6% salt.

Wondering if I had selected for particularly salt-tolerant LAB, I did a short experiment to test whether my starter could now grow at higher salt concentrations.  I set up small portions of dough using all-purpose flour at 75% hydration, with salt at 3%, 4%, 5%, and 6% solution. These equate to 2.25%, 3%, 3.75%, and 4.5% baker's percentages.  Seed was 10% pre-fermented flour in a 70% hydration whole wheat starter kept at 2.2% baker's percentage salt, 3.25 solution percentage.  I compensated for the seed water and salt, accordingly, so the above were final percentages.

 Here are the aliquots at the start: Here they are after 20 hours at room temperature: 3% solution had somewhat larger gas bubbles, but 4-6% looked very similar with numerous small bubbles developing (may be hard to see in the photo).  This was consistent with primarily yeast being active from 4-6%.  To check the effect on flavor, I afterwards doubled the amount of flour and water, added salt at proportions necessary to equalize all four at 2.25% baker's percentage, and microwaved them into bread.  Fermentation at 3% salt resulted in mildly sour flavor, and above that the bread was not sour but still had a nice flavor reminiscent of Italian bread.

What seems clear, then, is that salt has the potential to shift the balance between different strains of bacteria and yeasts.  In my limited survey of the literature, the first statements that I found about whether that would actually be advantageous were in a section of Neysens and De Vuyst's 2005 publication.  They cite at least a few known precedents of the use of NaCl in traditional sourdough processes.  (They don't mention what I suppose is another precedent, the pâté fermentée / old dough method)

Neysens and De Vuyst refer to a sourdough patent from 1973, which states, "An important ingredient in the liquid starter is salt (NaCl) which we found has the critical effect of maintaining the yeast and bacteria growth rates in the proper relationship. Because the starter of the invention contains a much higher proportion of water than the conventional sponge, there is a tendency for bacterial growth to outstrip yeast growth. The addition of salt counteracts this tendency by preferentially accelerating yeast growth. To attain this desirable effect when the liquid starter of the invention is made up, one includes about 1 to 3% of salt, based on the amount of flour."  https://patents.google.com/patent/US3734743A/en

Experiments by Simonson et al. showed skew towards yeast by decreased competition with LAB in certain ranges of NaCl, such that they identified dramatically different ratios of LAB to yeast after culture at different salt concentrations.

Salt-containing sourdough cultures are also reported to favor lactic acid production over acetic acid production at some concentrations.

All this to say, salt is another tool that we can use strategically to influence fermentation in our breads.  I hope more of us will give it a try. 

--Tom 

 P.S.    

I’m not sure how to make use of this.  I feel confident that wild yeast-driven bread can be made this way, but because we don’t want the salt to high in the final product, it takes dilution by additional water or dough.  A high PFF bread like ciabatta seems the obvious application, since the low hydration allows higher salt concentration.   Two big questions in my mind are: 1) How quickly will the LAB retake the yeast during BF and proof?  Dunno the LAB growth rates but E. coli can grow with a doubling time of 20 minutes at their preferred 37 deg C.  It calls for another try. 2) Can a yeast-dominated 5-6% (solution) salt starter be maintained long-term without encroachment of bad bugs?  If it’s not getting sour, seems like other bacteria and molds should be able to grow.  The salt would help, at least.  

  REFERENCES:

Ganzle et al., "Modeling of Growth of Lactobacillus sanfranciscensis and Candida milleri in Response to Process Parameters of Sourdough Fermentation," Applied and Environmental Microbiology, 1998.

Brandt et al., "Effects of process parameters on growth and metabolism of Lactobacillus sanfranciscensis and Candida humilis during rye sourdough fermentation," 2004.

Gänzle and Gobbetti (editors), "Handbook on Sourdough Biotechnology," 2013.

Neysens and De Vuyst, "Kinetics and modelling of sourdough lactic acid bacteria," Trends in Food Science & Technology, 2005. Simonson et al., “Response of wheat sourdough parameters two temperature, NaCl and sucrose variations,” Food Microbiology, 2003.
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harum

Kamikaze bread anyone?

In search of a recipe for a rye bread that would be full of flavor and aroma I came across the ones that, instead of a room temperature sourdough starter, start with what is known as Sauerteig Typ II in Germany or KMKZ in Russia.  The idea was to get rid of or minimze the amount of acetic acid in the dough, which might dominate or kill off all other flavors.

These are very similar to regular starters except that they are developed and maintained at higher temperatures and contain only lactic acid producing LAB and no yeast.  I use 105-109°F for my KMKZ "kamikaze" starter made with the procedure described here.  The recipe for this 80% dark rye / 20% whole wheat involves scald, preferment, and final dough and comes from here, hydration is about 70%.

The bread is really delicious: sweet fruity and buttery aroma, complex flavor, and pleasant aftertaste without bitterness and acidity.  Next time will extend bulk fermentation or lower the temperature of prefement from 85 to 80°F in an attempt to make it a bit more sour by building a bit of the acetic acid.   This is interesting because even though mother KMKZ tastes super-sour the bread has very little acidity, which is further masked by the added sugars.

 

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Benito

Purple Sweet Potato Black Sesame Sourdough

I love the effect that sweet potatoes have on tenderizing the crumb and the sweet flavour of sweet potatoes and thought I should make another sweet potato sourdough but instead of pecans, this time adding black sesame seeds.  Those who know me know I love the flavour of sesame seeds and black sesame seeds in particular.

This formula makes a 900 g dough.

I built both the levain and saltolyse dough in the evening starting both with fridge cold water and some fridge time.

Levain 1:4:4 10 g starter 40 g 2ºC water and 40 g whole wheat

Saltolyse dough mix.

290 g water 2ºC dissolve 2% salt 8.18 g then mix 331 g bread or all purpose flour and 41 g whole wheat flour. Then place in fridge.

Just before bedtime take both out of the fridge and leave at a cool room temperature overnight.

In the morning once the levain has just peaked, spread 74 g of levain over the top of the dough, then pinch or dimple into the dough with wet fingers.  The stretch and fold in the bowl followed by 150 slap and folds on the counter.  Let rest in bowl for 20-30 mins in proofing box at 80ºF.  Bulk fermentation has started and fermentation at 80ºF for remainder of bulk.

Clean 1 sweet potato and poke all over with fork.  Microwave 5-10 mins until well cooked/soft.  Cut open and remove meat and mash thoroughly.  If the potato is dry, add some neutral oil while mashing and a pinch of salt.  Allow to cool to room temperature.

Edit - an alternate and better way to prep the sweet potato.  Clean and poke sweet potato with a fork.  Rub all over with olive oil, wrap in foil and bake at 375ºF until soft.  Cut open and remove meat and mash thoroughly adding a pinch of salt.

Divide dough in two and do a counter letterfold to the first half then placing it back in the bowl in proofing box.  To the other half of the dough do a strong letterfold smearing the mashed sweet potato on the dough prior to each fold incorporating all the potato.  Place dough in a separate bowl into proofing box.  The sweet potato may interfere with gluten formation so incorporating it separately helps ensure that the gluten is maximized.

After 30 mins do a double lamination as in my video incorporating the black sesame seeds during the lamination.

Remove 30-40 g of the dough and set up your aliquot jar.  See video for further information on how to use the aliquot jar to assess bulk fermentation.

The aliquot jar should be kept next to the dough throughout bulk fermentation to ensure that the temperature and rate of fermentation is as close to the main dough as possible.  Each time you remove the dough for coil folds remove the aliquot jar as well from the proofing box.

Do 3-4 sets of coil folds for the remainder of bulk fermentation at 30-40 mins intervals until a good windowpane is achieved.  Bulk fermentation ends once your aliquot jar reaches 60% rise.  Go directly to final shaping, the last coil fold will act as your pre-shaping one of the advantages of using coil folds.

Once shaped and placed in a rice flour dusted banneton, place into a plastic bag or cover with reusable plastic shower cap (this is what I use now to cover the dough in banneton or in a bowl) and place in fridge for cold retard overnight.

The next morning, pre-heat oven 500ºF with dutch oven inside.  After 1 hour when oven has reached 500ºF remove dough turning out onto parchment paper.  Brush off excess rice flour and score.  Brush dough liberally with water, this helps with blisters and increases the steam in the dutch oven for excellent oven spring.  Transfer to the dutch oven dropping the temperature to 450ºF and bake in dutch oven covered for 20 mins.  After 20 mins remove cover and drop oven to 420ºF.  Bake for another 23-25 mins turning the dutch oven halfway through continuing to bake without the cover until the crust is a rich mahogany brown.

 

 

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Benito

pH meters and starter acidity

I’m thinking about purchasing a pH meter.  I’ve long wondered about how acidic my starter is especially it goes unfed for a few weeks in the fridge.  I’m also interested in how acidic my bread dough proof to as well.  

I’m wondering if anyone here has a pH meter that they use to measure the pH of their starter that they might recommend.  Is it easy to use, does it require calibration?  Is it easy to clean after use?

Benny

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dmsnyder

Buttermilk-Spelt Sourdough Bread

I have been baking often but have settled on a handful of breads that I most enjoy eating. I have posted on all of them here over the years, in some cases multiple times documenting minor variations. But this week I saw a bread on another online forum that grabbed my attention and instantly went to the top of my ridiculously long "To Bake" list. It turns out that my intuition was spot on. This turned out to be an extraordinarily delicious bread.

 

Buttermilk-Spelt Sourdough Bread

from Cecilia Agni Hadiyanto on Facebook

 

Total Dough

Ingredient

Wt (g)

Bakers %

Hi-gluten flour

38.5

7

Whole Wheat flour

11

2

Whole Rye flour

5.5

1

All Purpose (AP) flour

300

54

Whole Spelt flour

200

36

Water

55

10

Buttermilk

425

76

Salt

10

2

Total

1045

188

 

Levain

Ingredient

Wt (g)

Bakers %

Hi-gluten flour

38.5

70

Whole Wheat flour

11

20

Whole Rye Flour

5.5

10

Water

55

100

Active starter

22

40

Total

132

240

  1. Dissolve the active starter in the water. 
  2. Add the flours and mix thoroughly.
  3. Place in a clean container with a tight lid and ferment at room temperature until doubled in volume.
  4. If not ready to mix the final dough, you can refrigerate the levain for up to 3 days.

 

Final Dough

Ingredient

Wt (g)

Whole grain Spelt flour

200

AP flour

300

Buttermilk

425

Active liquid levain

110

Salt

10

Total

1045

 

Procedure

  1. Mix all of the ingredients except the salt to a shaggy mass in a medium bowl and cover.
  2. Autolyse for 30-120 minutes.
  3. Sprinkle the salt over the dough and incorporate completely. (I use the pinch and fold method described by Forkish in “Flour Water Salt Yeast.”)
  4. Bulk ferment at 76-80ºF until double in volume (about 4-8 hours, depending on temperature) with Stretch & Fold in the bowl at 30 and 60 minutes and a lamination fold on the board at 120 minutes).
  5. Pre-shape round and cover. Let rest for 20 minutes or so.
  6. Shape as boule or bâtard and place in a floured banneton. Cover with a towel or place in a food grade plastic bag.
  7. Proof for 1-2 hours at room temperature, then cold retard for 12-18 hours. 
  8. Bake in a Dutch oven at 460ºF covered for 20 minutes. Uncover.  Continue baking at 420ºF for 30 minutes. (The falling temperature approach is because this bread tends to darken very quickly due to the buttermilk. So keep an eye on it and adjust your oven temperature accordingly.)
  9. Cool on a rack thoroughly before slicing. 

 

 

This bread has an extraordinary flavor. It is a bit nutty and earthy and very sour. (Remember its hydration is basically all buttermilk.) My wife says it smells like rye, and, in fact,  it tastes like rye. It must be the spelt. I like it a lot.

Happy baking!

David 

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seasidejess

Tips for 100% Fresh-Milled Whole Wheat Baking

I thought it would be good to write a few things down that I have learned in my milling and baking adventures.

When I first started baking (I started with 100% WW from the beginning) I used to knead in a stand mixer but I couldn't make good bread. After a lot of trial and error, I'm making consistently good 100% ww bread from home milled flour, both sourdough and conventional dry yeast. The key for me is an autolyse combined with the right hydration (between 70 to 80%). This means that there's not much kneading required in any of my breads.  

My suggestion is to start by mixing flour and water until just barely mixed/wetted, then stop. It should be mushy. *It's important that you stop, do not keeping going and developing the gluten at this stage. Cover and let rest for an hour to hydrate the bran and develop the gluten.

After an hour (or up to 12 hours refrigerated) spread the dough out flat on the counter, sprinkle on your instant yeast and salt and whatever else is in the recipe, roll it up, and knead by hand on the counter for about 2 to 5 minutes until it feels like the salt has disappeared and the gluten is developed. The dough will be very cohesive and springy and have a moist tacky surface.

If it is a sourdough, spread on the levain at this point, fold it over, add the salt, and knead it in. For active dry yeast I like to put the yeast in water and then add flour to make a paste and add it as if it was a sourdough levain. 

Then continue with your bulk proof. (Optionally you can do a letter fold or two at 1/2 hour intervals during the bulk proof, just to organize the dough and build strength.) Then do a final, gentle letter fold, shape the dough, and let it have it's final hour-long proof. 

Here is a really lovely video of 100% whole wheat bread using this method.   You can see that after the autolyse, when combining the dough with the levain and salt she only kneads for 3 or 5 minutes minutes, just to bring together the starter and salt with the dough. That is enough to develop the gluten for a rustic bread. If I'm making a sandwich loaf, especially an enriched dough, I will knead it longer, for about 10 minutes, until the gluten is very well developed and is showing a nice windowpane. 

I don't usually do stretch and folds. If the dough needs strength I give it letter folds on the counter at the end of bulk fermentation. This is especially useful for spelt and for khorasan/Kamut both of which are very extensible and need to have letter folds to soak up some of that lengthening capacity in order to be able to tighten them at the final shaping. 

I don't know why developing the gluten at the very beginning mix stage messes things up so badly for me. I just know that it makes the gluten weird: it almost seems to separate the gluten from the dough into strings. It's just not good. 

 

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My lievito madre (videos)

Spontaneously I documented the maintenance of my starter.

Please excuse any background noise and the appearance of my unkempt face.

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Isand66

Purple Corn-Purple Sweet Potato Bread

I'm really loving purple bread!  I've made a similar bread a few months ago, but this time I decided to also add freshly ground purple corn.  I also used Kamut instead of the previously used Spelt.

I was very happy with how this turned out.  The crumb was semi-open, nice and soft and flavorful.  This one is a keeper and worth trying if you dare.

Here are the Zip files for the above BreadStorm files.

Levain Directions

Mix all the levain ingredients together  for about 1 minute and cover with plastic wrap.  Let it sit at room temperature for around 7-8 hours or until the starter has doubled.  I used my proofer set at 83 degrees and it took about 4 hours.   You can use it immediately in the final dough or let it sit in your refrigerator overnight.

 Main Dough Procedure

Mix the flours  and the sweet potato with 90% of the water for about 1 minute.  Let the rough dough sit for about 20 minutes to an hour.  Next add the levain, olive oil, salt and the balance of the water and mix on low for 5 minutes.   Remove the dough from your bowl and place it in a lightly oiled bowl or work surface and do several stretch and folds.  Let it rest covered for 10-15 minutes and then do another stretch and fold.  Let it rest another 10-15 minutes and do one additional stretch and fold.  After a total of 2 hours place your covered bowl in the refrigerator and let it rest for 12 to 24 hours.  (Since I used my proofer I only let the dough sit out for 1.5 hours before refrigerating).

When you are ready to bake remove the bowl from the refrigerator and let it set out at room temperature still covered for 1.5 to 2 hours.  Remove the dough and shape as desired.

The dough will take 1.5 to 2 hours depending on your room temperature and will only rise about 1/3 it's size at most.  Let the dough dictate when it is read to bake not the clock.

Around 45 minutes before ready to bake, pre-heat your oven to 540 degrees F. and prepare it for steam.  I have a heavy-duty baking pan on the bottom rack of my oven with 1 baking stone on above the pan and one on the top shelf.  I pour 1 cup of boiling water in the pan right after I place the dough in the oven.

Right before you are ready to put them in the oven, score as desired and then add 1 cup of boiling water to your steam pan or follow your own steam procedure.

Lower the temperature to 450 degrees.  Bake for 25-35 minutes until the crust is nice and brown and the internal temperature of the bread is 205 degrees.

Take the bread out of the oven when done and let it cool on a bakers rack before for at least 2 hours before eating.

Below is the nice moist and colorful crumb.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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